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Stem Cells & Healing?

We are not losing stem cells because of these things, no.



People what to believe in magic. The fact that they feel better does not make it true. Ever heard of the logical fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc? It means "after this, therefore because of this", and is the fallacy of assigning a cause just because it came before. People who point to homeopathy patients and say "See? They got better! Therefore, homeopathy works!" are making this exact fallacy. Scientific studies all show that homeopathy is no better than a sugar pill. It does nothing at all.

If purpose is solved, I shall prefer not to allow a single odd molecule to be taken. It is still better if I can get treatment from water or sugar pill may it be placebo or otherwise. Still I respect C+P.:)
 
It is healthful to be curious.:)

Why won't you tell us?

If purpose is solved, I shall prefer not to allow a single odd molecule to be taken. It is still better if I can get treatment from water or sugar pill may it be placebo or otherwise. Still I respect C+P.:)

There is no "otherwise", Kumar. Homeopathy is water. And it does absolutely nothing, except maybe, minutely, make you feel a bit better. But anything could do this: take a walk in the sun, go for a swim, see a good movie. These are just as good as making you feel better than homeopathy. It Does. Not. Work. At. All.
 
Why won't you tell us?



There is no "otherwise", Kumar. Homeopathy is water. And it does absolutely nothing, except maybe, minutely, make you feel a bit better. But anything could do this: take a walk in the sun, go for a swim, see a good movie. These are just as good as making you feel better than homeopathy. It Does. Not. Work. At. All.

Why then not homeopathy? What about lower potencies where molecular presence of active substances are scientific?
 
If purpose is solved, I shall prefer not to allow a single odd molecule to be taken. It is still better if I can get treatment from water or sugar pill may it be placebo or otherwise. Still I respect C+P.:)
You CAN'T get treatment from water or a sugar pill.

Except for dehydration or hypoglycemia.
 
Why won't you tell us?

Why then not homeopathy? What about lower potencies where molecular presence of active substances are scientific?

High dilutions are not the same thing as homeopathy. If something is diluted a lot, it is still measurable. Homeopathy works with things which science cannot measure. In fact, in 30C dilutions, there is only a 1/10 of there being a single molecule of the substance in the pill. That, right there, should tell you it doesn't work, Kumar.
 
Why won't you tell us?



High dilutions are not the same thing as homeopathy. If something is diluted a lot, it is still measurable. Homeopathy works with things which science cannot measure. In fact, in 30C dilutions, there is only a 1/10 of there being a single molecule of the substance in the pill. That, right there, should tell you it doesn't work, Kumar.

Upto 12C & 24X molecular presence is there. Above that either a miss in measurement or some energetic presence which is yet to be understood in science.
 
Upto 12C & 24X molecular presence is there. Above that either a miss in measurement or some energetic presence which is yet to be understood in science.

No, Kumar. Homeopathy does nothing. It is water.

Also, why will you not tell us?
 
Upto 12C & 24X molecular presence is there.
Up to 12C / 24X there might be some molecules of the original substance, yes.

Above that either a miss in measurement or some energetic presence which is yet to be understood in science.
No. Above that there is nothing. No molecules of the original substance, and no effect.
 
Up to 12C / 24X there might be some molecules of the original substance, yes.


No. Above that there is nothing. No molecules of the original substance, and no effect.

I am happy upto 24X. In these types, there can still be possibilty above 24X in view of our previous discussions.
 
Whatever.

Why will you not tell us your first language?

I am happy upto 24X. In these types, there can still be possibilty above 24X in view of our previous discussions.

No, there is no possibility. Kumar, higher dilutes are blow Avogadro's number contain less than one molecule. There is no effect. Even if you argue that "science doesn't know everything", and even if we grant you that, tests have conclusively found that Homeopathic medicine has the same affect as a placebo. This means it does not work.
 
Even if you argue that "science doesn't know everything", and even if we grant you that, tests have conclusively found that Homeopathic medicine has the same affect as a placebo.


Actually, as originally practised by Hahnemann it performed worse than placebo, causing (to quote a recent textbook about homoeopathic pharmacy) "aggravations that, in some cases, amounted to dangerous toxic reactions". By introducing the dilutions he at least managed to make it as good as placebo.
 
Why then not homeopathy? What about lower potencies where molecular presence of active substances are scientific?
Overdilution is just one aspect of homeopathy. Since it is so easy to understand for most people, it is what is often discussed. However, the basic tenet of homeopathy is that like cures like, and the basis is that disease is only what is expressed as symptoms, which is provably wrong. The next claim is that only one malfuction can exist at one time, which is also provably wrong. Finally, the idea that the effect of a medicine will replace a disease is provably wrong.

In short, homeopathy is simply mistaken on all accounts. It is an archaic idea originally founded in ancient Grece (Hahnemann only refined it), from way back when virtually no biology was known, and very little physics was known.

Hans
 
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