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Stem Cells & Healing?

Giggywig said:
You are mistaken.

You are mistaken There is no benefit from homeopathy.
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I can be mistaken in you but not in mine.

Science will never be "absolute & final." This is a reality of this universe. Your refusal to understand this speaks to ignorance and juvenile naivete. This does not mean that any hypothesis is equally valuable. Some have been dismissed, like homeopathy.
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You have said the truth. However it can be upto certain extent, if it can respect both energy & matter--fandamentals to this universe.

Anyway, you are deviating & deviating me from the subject. You people couldn't contribute a least. So I am discouraged to continue unless I get something. We had wasted much time on TTTT so I shall only respond to subject discussions.
 
Mojo said:
How would you use this idea to control population, given that at present people are reproducing faster than they are dying?
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Simply, whether today's prefered interventions are not effecting "surrvival of fittest" & propagating unfits to bring unfittness?

Sometime I am convinced with your prefered system as most valid as on date in view of whatever opposed nature's prime goal will correct it by adversities in view of "nature balances itself" & one who dig pit..... , for every action there is....etc. If one want to get graces of nature his acts should be aiding to nature whose prime goal is "balance, homeostasis(God)" neither excess of positives(angels) nor of negatives(devils) etc. because excess of everything is considered to be bad--on either side.
 
PixyMisa said:
No. The evidence found from "homeopath clinics" is that homeopathy does nothing.


No.

Homeopathy is completely ineffective. We've studied it. It doesn't work. It's physically impossible too, but the main point is that it just doesn't work.
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Today's people at mass are well educated & well informed so can't be guliable. Anyway, nothing to the subject is contributed and we are again wasting time in TTTT. Henceforth I may only respond to contribution to OP.
 
Kumar said:
Today's people at mass are well educated & well informed so can't be guliable.
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Since you believe that homeopathy and ayurvedic medicine are useful, it is patently obvious that you, for one, are neither well-educated nor well-informed. Since your beliefs are widespread, it is clear that "people at mass" are similarly neither well-educated nor well-informed.

Indeed, given the unending barrage of nonsense we see on these forums, it is clear that the global education system as a whole is absolutely dreadful. Some countries are better in some areas, but on the whole, the situation is dire. The only comfort we can take is that it was even worse in the 70's.

Anyway, nothing to the subject is contributed and we are again wasting time in TTTT. Henceforth I may only respond to contribution to OP.
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No. It directly addresses your real point. Whatever stem cells may or may not do, homeopathy and ayurvedic medicine are entirely fraudulent.
 
Kumar said:
Simply, whether today's prefered interventions are not effecting "surrvival of fittest" & propagating unfits to bring unfittness?

Sometime I am convinced with your prefered system as most valid as on date in view of whatever opposed nature's prime goal will correct it by adversities in view of "nature balances itself" & one who dig pit..... , for every action there is....etc. If one want to get graces of nature his acts should be aiding to nature whose prime goal is "balance, homeostasis(God)" neither excess of positives(angels) nor of negatives(devils) etc. because excess of everything is considered to be bad--on either side.
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Are you really proposing that we stop using "today's prefered interventions" and eliminate people you consider to be unfit from the gene pool by instead treating them with the useless quackery you support?

Homoeopathy as eugenics?
 
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Mojo said:
Are you really proposing that we stop using "today's prefered interventions" and eliminate people you consider to be unfit from the gene pool by instead treating them with the useless quackery you support?

Homoeopathy as eugenics?
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Can we treat them with something more humane, like a bullet to the head? Death from untreated disease is not fun.
 
Kumar said:
I can be mistaken in you but not in mine.
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Gibberish.

Kumar said:
You have said the truth. However it can be upto certain extent, if it can respect both energy & matter--fandamentals to this universe.
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More gibberish.

Kumar said:
Anyway, you are deviating & deviating me from the subject. You people couldn't contribute a least. So I am discouraged to continue unless I get something. We had wasted much time on TTTT so I shall only respond to subject discussions.
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Remind me what TTTT stands for?
 
On the topic;

It is indicative that inflammation, acidic pH, Ca2+ & hypoxic conditions can be related to stem cells activation & mobilization. These also happen in many diseases. Somewhat bone resorption can be low pH related, hypoxia can also be related to acidosis. So all these can be related to each other. As such instabilities in these may be related to stem cells activities--for surrvival benefit.
 
Kumar said:
On the topic;

It is indicative that inflammation, acidic pH, Ca2+ & hypoxic conditions can be related to stem cells activation & mobilization. These also happen in many diseases. Somewhat bone resorption can be low pH related, hypoxia can also be related to acidosis. So all these can be related to each other. As such instabilities in these may be related to stem cells activities--for surrvival benefit.
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Is there a hypothesis buried there somewhere? I'm not sure what you are claiming.
 
Kumar said:
On the topic;

It is indicative that inflammation, acidic pH, Ca2+ & hypoxic conditions can be related to stem cells activation & mobilization. These also happen in many diseases. Somewhat bone resorption can be low pH related, hypoxia can also be related to acidosis. So all these can be related to each other. As such instabilities in these may be related to stem cells activities--for surrvival benefit.
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Even if this were correct, it wouldn't change the fact that homeopathy does not work.
 
Taffer said:
Even if this were correct, it wouldn't change the fact that homeopathy does not work.
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Since you are unnecessary linking, Invisible force/Vital force in alternative systems/homeopathy can somewhat resemble to stem cell system. Derangement of this system can be a derangement in vital force.
 
Kumar said:
Since you are unnecessary linking, Invisible force/Vital force in alternative systems/homeopathy can somewhat resemble to stem cell system. Derangement of this system can be a derangement in vital force.
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This doesn't make any sense. But it doesn't matter. Kumar, it is a scientific fact that homeopathy does not work.
 
Kumar said:
Since you are unnecessary linking, Invisible force/Vital force in alternative systems/homeopathy can somewhat resemble to stem cell system.
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There is no "invisible force". There is no "vital force". Homeopathy does not resemble the "stem cell system" in any way whatsoever.

Derangement of this system can be a derangement in vital force.
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There is no vital force.

Also, homeopathy does not work.
 
Kumar said:
Simply, whether today's prefered interventions are not effecting "surrvival of fittest" & propagating unfits to bring unfittness?

Sometime I am convinced with your prefered system as most valid as on date in view of whatever opposed nature's prime goal will correct it by adversities in view of "nature balances itself" & one who dig pit..... , for every action there is....etc. If one want to get graces of nature his acts should be aiding to nature whose prime goal is "balance, homeostasis(God)" neither excess of positives(angels) nor of negatives(devils) etc. because excess of everything is considered to be bad--on either side.
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If I understand you correctly (and I'm far from sure I do), you are saying that hoemopathy and ayurvedic cures are better than modern medicine, because they do not interfere with the survival of the fittest (a concept I'm not sure your really understand, by the way). What a horribly callous idea.

So what you are saying in other words, it seems to me, is that homeopathy and ayueveda have no effect at all, since they do not disturb "nature's balance", in sharp contrast to modern medicine, which actually cures people. On that, at least, we agree.
 
Helen said:
If I understand you correctly (and I'm far from sure I do)...
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I think you do. It isn't the first time he'd brought up the ideas of "survival of the fittest" or the "balance of nature". I'm not sure that he's properly thought it through, though.
 
PixyMisa said:
There is no "invisible force". There is no "vital force". Homeopathy does not resemble the "stem cell system" in any way whatsoever.

There is no vital force.

Also, homeopathy does not work.
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How you know when you are unable to tell about stem cells?
 
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