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Stem Cells & Healing?

But note that these fundamentally allopathic systems are regulated by the same government department as homoeopathy, and their proponents have the nerve to call real medicine "allopathy".
 
Mojo said:
2+2=4.
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Several factors are important to regulate stem cell characteristics within the niche: cell-cell interactions between stem cells, as well as interactions between stem cells and neighbouring differentiated cells, interactions between stem cells and adhesion molecules, extracellular matrix components, the oxygen tension, growth factors, cytokines, and physiochemical nature of the environment including the pH, ionic strength (e.g. Ca2+ concentration) and metabolites, like ATP, are also important. The stem cells and niche may induce each other during development and reciprocally signal to maintain each other during adulthood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_niche
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I am more attracted to bold ones above. Probably, it is low oxygen tension, low pH & higher Ca2+ may be relavent to increased stem cells activities.

Can anyone tell me about level of these during prenatal fetal development?
 
PixyMisa said:
I can add.

Homeopathy is fraud. It's dangerous and potentially deadly in that patients might die because they do not seek out real medical attention.

Ayurvedic medicine is fraud. It's dangerous and potentially deadly, not only in that patients might die because they do not seek out real medical attention, but also in that the medicines themselves can be poisonous.

Both are entirely without scientific basis and are promoted only by the supremely ignorant and the criminally negligent.
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Repeating, whether science is yet absolute & final? If not, which system's medicines can be more harmful if given without absolute understanding?
 
PixyMisa said:
Also, India has some of the worst healthcare statistics of any country. Kumar, I'll give you three guesses as to why.
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Whatever, still population of India is increasing more & more? Just check, what nature suggest?
 
Kumar said:
Repeating, whether science is yet absolute & final?
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Stop that. All you are doing is hunting for excuses to shore up your belief in these frauds.

The question is, is there any evidence that homeopathy works? That it has any effect at all? That it is even possible that it could work?

No. There is none. What's more, it contradicts everything we know. Not only does it not work, it can't possibly work.

If not, which system's medicines can be more harmful if given without absolute understanding?
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Ayurvedic and other "traditional" medicines are worst by far. It's not unusual for deaths to be caused directly by these medicines, when they have no therapeutic value at all.

Then comes homeopathy. It's not directly harmful, but it is, as pointed out earlier, indirectly harmful and potentially lethal.

And then, far far better, comes real medicine. Sometimes real medicine can be dangerous. But it demonstrably saves enormous numbers of lives, where ayurvedic medicine just takes your money and poisons you.
 
Kumar said:
Whatever, still population of India is increasing more & more?
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Yes, even with the abysmal public health standards of India, people are still reproducing faster than they are dying. So?

Just check, what nature suggest?
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What nature suggests is that you drop the ayurvedic medicine and homeopathy garbage and use real medicine.
 
PixyMisa said:
Stop that. All you are doing is hunting for excuses to shore up your belief in these frauds.

The question is, is there any evidence that homeopathy works? That it has any effect at all? That it is even possible that it could work?

No. There is none. What's more, it contradicts everything we know. Not only does it not work, it can't possibly work.


Ayurvedic and other "traditional" medicines are worst by far. It's not unusual for deaths to be caused directly by these medicines, when they have no therapeutic value at all.

Then comes homeopathy. It's not directly harmful, but it is, as pointed out earlier, indirectly harmful and potentially lethal.

And then, far far better, comes real medicine. Sometimes real medicine can be dangerous. But it demonstrably saves enormous numbers of lives, where ayurvedic medicine just takes your money and poisons you.
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Other people in mass also feel & experiance with other systems like you feel with your prefered system. They simply prefer because they experiance lesser side effects with desired effects.
 
PixyMisa said:
Yes, even with the abysmal public health standards of India, people are still reproducing faster than they are dying. So?


What nature suggests is that you drop the ayurvedic medicine and homeopathy garbage and use real medicine.
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Nature suggests "survival of fittest".
 
Kumar said:
Other people in mass also feel & experiance with other systems like you feel with your prefered system. They simply prefer because they experiance lesser side effects with desired effects.
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You are mistaken. PixyMisa was not talking about how he "feels." He was talking about what is known through evidence. Your refusal to understand the difference is to your detriment.
 
How Stem Cells Help the Healing Process

When stem cells are injected intravenously, intramuscularly or subcutaneously, they travel to those parts of the body that have suffered from some type of injury. At these various sites of injury, the blood vessels have been damaged, narrowed and constricted. These constrictions prevent the oxygen carrying red blood cells from passing through to the tissues - which then produce areas of reduced oxygen content. Since stem cells are large, they become lodged in these narrowed and constricted small blood vessels. The low levels of oxygen found in these damaged areas are just what the stem cells need to grow and multiply.

http://www.stemcelltherapies.org/cordbloodresearch.htm

Conditions Treatable by Stem Cell Transplantation
http://www.stemcelltherapies.org/treatable_conditions.htm
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Above quote is also interesting & relavent.
 
Giggywig said:
You are mistaken. PixyMisa was not talking about how he "feels." He was talking about what is known through evidence. Your refusal to understand the difference is to your detriment.
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Plenty of live evidences can be found in homeopathic clinics. On comparing risk-benefits, lower consistency of homeopathic outcome than outcome from strict scientific studies(for concentrated/toxic chemicals) can still be useful. He should get desired evidences when science will be absolute & final.
 
Kumar said:
Plenty of live evidences can be found in homeopathic clinics.
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You are mistaken.
Kumar said:
On comparing risk-benefits, lower consistency of homeopathic outcome than outcome from strict scientific studies(for concentrated/toxic chemicals) can still be useful.
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You are mistaken There is no benefit from homeopathy.
Kumar said:
He should get desired evidences when science will be absolute & final.
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Science will never be "absolute & final." This is a reality of this universe. Your refusal to understand this speaks to ignorance and juvenile naivete. This does not mean that any hypothesis is equally valuable. Some have been dismissed, like homeopathy.
 
I see you are back and at it again, Kumar.

You mention people feeling good when using homeopathic medicine. Understand, it is a FACT that homeopathic medicine has no more affect than taking a sugar pill.
 
Kumar said:
Other people in mass also feel & experiance with other systems like you feel with your prefered system.
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No they don't. This is completely untrue. We can see this "in mass" via India's appalling healthcare statistics.

They simply prefer because they experiance lesser side effects with desired effects.
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With homeopathy, there's no direct side effect, but there's no desired effect either.

With ayurvedic medicine, the side effects are worse, and there's still no desired effect.
 
Kumar said:
Plenty of live evidences can be found in homeopathic clinics.
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No. The evidence found from "homeopath clinics" is that homeopathy does nothing.

On comparing risk-benefits, lower consistency of homeopathic outcome than outcome from strict scientific studies(for concentrated/toxic chemicals) can still be useful. He should get desired evidences when science will be absolute & final.
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No.

Homeopathy is completely ineffective. We've studied it. It doesn't work. It's physically impossible too, but the main point is that it just doesn't work.
 
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