Star Wars Beam Weapon and the WTC Bathtub

[Horatius]

I think they all expect that an explosive charge is supposed to detonate under the rear axle and flip the car over, blowing the doors open in the process.

Ah, yes, the "Miami Vice" model. Very advanced.....

 

[Hellbound]

Ah, yes, the "Miami Vice" model. Very advanced.....

[Ahnold]
It didn't blow up. It must be ah-mored!
[/Ahnold]

 

[The_Fire]

[Ahnold]
It didn't blow up. It must be ah-mored!
[/Ahnold]

Or a simulation of the Matrix.........

 

[NoZed Avenger]

Ok, I have a new theory about the collapse.


I must ask: Does Ms. O'Leary's cow have an alibi?

 

[Horatius]

Ok, I have a new theory about the collapse.


I must ask: Does Ms. O'Leary's cow have an alibi?

Yeah, except we know it wasn't fire that did this, it was explosions. I don't think one cow can produce that much methane.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

Yeah, except we know it wasn't fire that did this, it was explosions. I don't think one cow can produce that much methane.

So she planted explosives before-hand, then set a fire and finally brought in a huge friggin' laser.

 

[JamesB]

You can't be serious; I'm amazed she was even allowed to teach at a University.

If she actually bothered to research things she'd have known that earthquakes initially produce seismic wave forms called P Waves, then S Waves. P for primary as these are the fastest wave forms and thus are recorded on the seismograph first and S for secondary.

The WTC collapse caused what's known as Rayleigh Waves.

So the fact that these seismic wave forms are completely different because they are produced by two totally different events (as you say) is it any wonder they are different, jeez.

Unfortunately, you can't make this stuff up.

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam1.html

Figure 20(a) shows the amount of ground movement from a 2.4 Richter scale earthquake that hit NYC in January, 2001. The data appear to be "raw," that is, unsmoothed and unmanipulated. For example, the amplitude of the earth’s movement is nearly double the 8 micrometers of the diagram. Figure 20(b) shows a similar diagram for the destruction of WTC 1 on 9/11. The data appear very different from those in Figure 20(a), smoother, fewer spikes, less complex, and with no distinctive S and P waves…should also have a delay between the two waves.

Most importantly, the amplitude of the 9/11 disturbance is less than half that of the January earthquake, despite a similar peak Richter reading. It is almost as if the data from 9/11 have attenuated, that peak movements have been reduced by some kind of filtering process. Does this difference reflect real data, that is, differences in real phenomena accurately recorded? Or have the data been filtered asymmetrically or differently? Or have the data been completely manufactured? We do not know, but for the sake of the analysis we use the Richter values reported. Could they have been lower than reported? Yes.

 

[negativ]

Here are the principal data that must be explained:

1. The Twin Towers were destroyed faster than physics can explain (free fall speed "collapse")
2. The protective bathtub was not significantly damaged by the destruction of the Twin Towers
3. The rail lines, rail cars and tunnels had only light damage
4. The WTC mall survived well, witnessed by Warner Bros. Road Runner and friends
5. The seismic impact was minimal, far too small based on our comparison with the Kingdome controlled demolition
6. The Twin Towers were destroyed from the top down, not bottom up, unlike WTC7
7. The upper 80 percent, approximately, of each tower was turned into fine dust and did not crash to the earth
8. File cabinet with folder dividers survive
9. Office paper was densly spread throughout lower Manhattan, unburned, often along side burning cars.
10. Vertical round holes were cut into buildings 4, 5 and 6, plus a cylindrical arc into Bankers Trust and into Liberty street in front of Bankers Trust
11. All planes but top secret missions were ordered down until 10:31 a.m. (when only military flights were allowed to resume), after both towers were destroyed, and only two minutes after WTC 1 had been destroyed
12. Approximately 1,400 motor vehicles were towed away, toasted in strange ways during the destruction of the Twin Towers
13. The order and method of destruction of each tower minimized damage to the bathtub.
14. Twin Tower control without damaging neighboring buildings, in fact all seriously damaged or destroyed buildings had a WTC prefix, and no others.
15. The north wing of WTC 4 was left standing, neatly sliced from the main body which virtually disappeared
16. The WTC1 and WTC2 rubble pile was far too small to account for the mass, unlike that of WTC7
17. Eyewitness testimony about toasted cars, instant disappearance of people by "unexplained" waves, a plane turning into a mid-air fireball and electrical power cut off moments before WTC 2 destruction, the sound of explosions
18. The possibility that a technology exists. Since invention of the microwave for cooking in 1945 and laser beam in 1955*, commercial and military development of beam technology has proceeded apace, so use of high-energy beams are likely

Suppose, just for a minute, that 9/11 really did happen more or less exactly as described by the 9/11 Commission report. I know it hurts, but humor me.

Given this, imagine that you are Osama bin Laden. Imagine that you are reading a paper written by educated people suggesting that DEATH RAYS FROM SPACE were the real culprit.

"Hand of Allah" notwithstanding, what do you, Osama bin Laden, make of this? How does the apparent fact that at least some people take this seriously affect you? What's your state of mind after reading this? What would you do with this development?

 

[negativ]

Charles Darwin was wrong.

Nah, maybe just a little too optimistic.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Yeah but the Ion Cannon took forever to charge, and in that time NOD would hit you with their flame tanks, stealth units, and tiberium cyborgs...

Oh wait. We're talking about real life.

Sorry.

-Gumboot

you can hack it to make it charge faster, lol

persoanlly i prefer the particle cannon to ion cannon, the govt could have built 2 of those and fired them both at the same time

 

[uk_dave]

Suppose, just for a minute, that 9/11 really did happen more or less exactly as described by the 9/11 Commission report. I know it hurts, but humor me.

Given this, imagine that you are Osama bin Laden. Imagine that you are reading a paper written by educated people suggesting that DEATH RAYS FROM SPACE were the real culprit.

"Hand of Allah" notwithstanding, what do you, Osama bin Laden, make of this? How does the apparent fact that at least some people take this seriously affect you? What's your state of mind after reading this? What would you do with this development?

I think if I was Osama....I'd cry.

 

[Horatius]

I think if I was Osama....I'd cry.

Yep. Far greater success than any of them could have ever predicted, and someone else gets the credit? I'd be pissed.

 

[uk_dave]

Actually....I think I'd sue.

 

[Trigood]

I think if I was Osama....I'd cry.

I'd laugh.... at all the idiots who believe this [rule8].

 

[JamesB]

Nah, maybe just a little too optimistic.

Actually it is probably just a change in society. In earlier eras people that stupid would have bean eaten by a tiger or something.

 

[gumboot]

Actually it is probably just a change in society. In earlier eras people that stupid would have bean eaten by a tiger or something.

Just remove all the safety labels from everything.

Problem solved.

-Gumboot

ETA. I recall a safety label on a chainsaw "Do not stop moving chain with hand"

It's true.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Just remove all the safety labels from everything.

Problem solved.

-Gumboot

ETA. I recall a safety label on a chainsaw "Do not stop moving chain with hand"

It's true.

my microwave says "Caution: Food may be hot."

i feel dumber everytime i read it

 

[Bell]

I'm still waiting for cars with - on the hood - the warning "Caution, do not step in front while car is moving forward!"

 

[JamesB]

Just remove all the safety labels from everything.

Problem solved.

-Gumboot

ETA. I recall a safety label on a chainsaw "Do not stop moving chain with hand"

It's true.

My favorite is how they always have the warning on hair dryers, "Do not use while bathing". Or on Starbucks cups, "Caution: the drink you are about to enjoy may be hot." Well I certainly hope so, or I am asking for my 4 bucks back.

 

[DavidJames]

my microwave says "Caution: Food may be hot."

Mine says "Do not operate around skyscrapers".