Spoon bending, how's it done?

[Resume]

It is really sad how rare the metal-bending has become after that surge in the 70's.

Yeah, I wonder why that is.

 

[AdMan]

It is really sad how rare the metal-bending has become after that surge in the 70's.

And this by itself doesn't tell you anything?

It was Uri Geller, a fake psychic who now calls himself a mystifier and entertainer, who popularized spoon bending in the '70s. He managed to fool some of the media and a few gullible scientists, inspired a few imitators, was exposed multiple times as a fraud, and eventually the interest in "psychic" metal bending died down and now is done mostly by magicians, who don't claim psychic powers, to entertain.

If it were a real power, why aren't we seeing people bending metal with their minds under tightly controlled conditions in laboratories all over the world?

I'll tell you why--because it's not real.

 

[Garrette]

I know this is absolutely fruitless, but after all I must say my opinion that there are serious flaws in your logic.



I agree there was much woo in the 70's. But Garrette did not provide "exactly" what I asked from him. If you read what I wrote about my observations and compare it with the videos Garrette gave as references, so perhaps it is not so "exactly". The videos do not explain what I saw, in company with my friends and colleagues.

Sigh. I suggest you follow the quotations back, particularly since I have already pointed the following out to you:

You did not ask me for reference that your boys were doing tricks. You asked me to support my claim that magicians bend things so that the bending occurs while the spectator observes. I did exactly that.

Next point: The implication is that there is no reason to conclude that your boys did anything beyond what magicians do simply because you observed the bend occurring.

Final point: I have said at least once that I cannot prove your boys did tricks, but that is beside the point. You must prove they did not. You have roundly failed to do so.

 

[Garrette]

And while I agree, Lusikka, that this may be pointless (though for a reason opposite from the one I suppose you have), I will point out that you have addressed nothing of the substance of my last post prior to your response.

Separate from you reviewing videos of magicians as videos of magicians and videos of your boys as videos of supernatural phenomena, you have shown nothing about taking legitimate steps to avoid trickery in your boys.

What expert magicians were present?

What advice from expert magicians did you take?

How did your experiments differ from those in the Alpha Project in which highly qualified scientists mistakenly insisted they had not been fooled by magicians?

What are you doing for replication?

What has any one else done for replication?

There are more questions, but that should do for now.

 

[rustypouch]

"Hold, slap, wiggle, drop."

 

[Kuko 4000]

Lusikka, I want to make sure we're on the same page here:

Even if the boys really had special abilities unknown to modern science, do you understand why the evidence you have presented so far is, at most, an interesting first step, and is not, and should not be enough for anyone to believe in the phenomenon, simply because we know from history and experience how easily even brilliant minds can be fooled or mistaken and how unplausible the idea is in light of all the things we know about the universe and nature?

By all means, carry on investigating and report every new development to us here, I'm sure people here are more than interested to comment and dig deeper if something new and substantial comes up.

 

[Js1981]

The bigest joke I have ever seen Uri doing on TV.

He meant to read what the host thought about and draw a picture, the host drew on too and of course the duplicated.
It was a picture of a sofa, the host just bough oje before the program and he asked a simple question but Uri messad up the answer.
The Host:
- wow, you must have talked to someone-
Uri:
- no, I swear I never talked to your assistant-

Imaging revealing even more?

The compas trick is even simpler. He got caught using magnets before. I belive there is even a youtube film showing a magnet on his finger.