*split* Lyte's proof that the Lloyd England's experience is false

The Silver Shadow said:
Just a thought, I've been reading this thread and haven't bothered posting here until now, but I was thinking that maybe Lyte, when questioning, gave vague questions to the witnesses and got vague answers in return for him to interpret the way he wanted to interpret. That's one possibility that has me thinking. We could use the raw interview footage to see if that's a possibility...
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Apparently, you haven't seen the footage.

There isn't anything vague about it.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Tell ya what Disb.

Go talk to the witnesses, show them the footage, and ask them if we misrepresented them.

If they do, we will release all the raw footage.

You are no different than a conspiracy theorist, with your wild accusations and theories. :p
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Typical, you avoid answering as much as possible.

See, I am not going to waste my time going to talk to your witnesses because I have a life and do not think that I am on a crusade to save the world. If you have their emails, I will have no problem emailing them and asking them some questions. Do they even know what your point was?
 
Lyte Trip said:
To support the lie. Plain and simple.

They fabricated the physical damage and bottom line the light poles were the most convincing physical evidence that there was a plane.

When the "missile" theories came out nobody was paying attention to the light poles.

Just the lack of debris, anomalous damage to the building etc.

But obviously a missile couldn't have knocked those poles down.

Lloyd gave a human element to this critical planted data and his story and images were touted throughout mainstream media.

This is propaganda gold because clearly it's pretty hard to imagine a guy like Lloyd being involved.
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Lyte, since you conspiracy theorists are so fond of claiming that something that has never happened before (such as a skyscraper collapsing from fire damage) cannot possibly happen, then perhaps you can answer this question:

When, in human history, has anyone ever attempted a "false flag" operation that required such convoluted planning and obfuscation as you are claiming happened on 9/11? For instance, let's look at the Nazis' fabricated attack by Polish soldiers that served as their pretext to invade Poland:

1. Was it done in broad daylight?
2. Was it done in the middle of one of the busiest areas in the country, ensuring hundreds of witnesses that would need to be silenced?
3. Can you think of a reason why it was NOT done this way?

How is it possible that you can't fathom the pure, unadultered INSANITY of a plot that would require people to drag light poles out into a busy street to make it look as if a plane has clipped them? One where a plane is supposed to fly over the Pentagon, with the hope that the hundreds of guaranteed witnesses won't notice that it didn't actually hit it? Why in God's name would they make up a plan that is so complicated and so easy to uncover? And why is it that the only documented cases of behavior like this is IN THE MOVIES?!?

I don't think there's any way you could actually believe this nonsense and still function in society.
 
aggle-rithm said:
How is it possible that you can't fathom the pure, unadultered INSANITY of a plot that would require people to drag light poles out into a busy street to make it look as if a plane has clipped them? One where a plane is supposed to fly over the Pentagon, with the hope that the hundreds of guaranteed witnesses won't notice that it didn't actually hit it? Why in God's name would they make up a plan that is so complicated and so easy to uncover? And why is it that the only documented cases of behavior like this is IN THE MOVIES?!?

I don't think there's any way you could actually believe this nonsense and still function in society.
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I have to disagree with you there. Nobody would even make a movie with such a stupid plot. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.
 
JamesB said:
I have to disagree with you there. Nobody would even make a movie with such a stupid plot. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.
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Especially when I don't think I have done anything to warrant suspension!!:D
 
As a casual reader of this thread, can some one tell me what Lyte thinks caused the damage at the Pentagon? I fear if I dig too deep into this thread or some of the other's I will lose too many brain cells.

Thanks
 
azazal said:
As a casual reader of this thread, can some one tell me what Lyte thinks caused the damage at the Pentagon? I fear if I dig too deep into this thread or some of the other's I will lose too many brain cells.

Thanks
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Some type of explosive that was hidden for an undetermined amount of time. The composition of said explosive is not known, but possibly two types involving conventional explosives and jet fuel to simulate a plane and the smells associated.
 
Disbelief said:
Some type of explosive that was hidden for an undetermined amount of time. The composition of said explosive is not known, but possibly two types involving conventional explosives and jet fuel to simulate a plane and the smells associated.
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OK, thanks. No bunker buster bombs or cruise missiles then, darn.
 
Lyte, it's pretty simple, if you have nothing to worry about, or hide, release the raw footage. You have zero reason not to if you have nothing to hide.

I'll use a common truther tactic: If you refuse to release the footage, I can only assume you to be a fraud and a liar.

Annoying, isn't it?
 
Me said:
How many of those 25 pilots and A & P mechanics [at PFT] are qualified to survey an accident scene to the point where they can determine whether or not an airplane of the stated size, traveling at the estimated speed, crashed? Exactly.
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Lyte Trip said:
How many in the ASCE were qualified crash scene investigators?

How many in the FBI were qualified crash scene investigators?
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Answering a question with a question (or two) is not answering the question.

Exactly?

2 that I know I of by the way. To answer your question.
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Thank you.

So your vaunted 95% of pilots and A & P mechanics at the Pilots for Truth discussion board amounts to...two people. Two whose qualifications to make a determination (by photo analysis alone, I take it?) as to whether or not a 757 crashed at the Pentagon you're certain of.

I appreciate the clarification. It always helps to be precise in these matters, don't you agree?

So regnad?

Did you have any answers on the plane "witnesses" saw flying away? Did you have any answers on the C-130's problematic interaction with this alleged AA 757?
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I am not familiar enough with those claims to discuss them one way or the other.
 
Belz... said:
What about mini-nukes ?????666
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They were both used in the WTC attacks!

Belz... said:
Your use of the word "simultaneously" is misleading. Their accounts seem to agree on ONE important point. But it doesn't follow that those accounts are correct. In fact, your own strategy can be used against you, here. If you claim the witnesses who support the "official story" were TOLD what they think, then it's entirely possible that, by asking leading questions many years after the facts, you got exactly the answers you were looking for from those four people.
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BTW, this is simply beautiful...absolutely and completely on the mark! :D

Regards

Mailman
 
Lyte, what might have caused that damage to Lloyd's windshield on the highway in front of the Pentagon if a light pole didn't?
 
Lyte Trip said:
Reg, there is no blathering.

The plane was on the North side of the Citgo.
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Yes, the north side between the gas station and the Pentagon, as shown to you before with the red line here: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/Pentagon folder 2/citgoplanedimensions.jpg

Since the plane as on the North side and pulled up, it did not hit the building.
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Jumbo jets traveling at many hundreds of miles per hour don't just pull up.

Sorry.
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Oh but only that were an apology for all of this nonsense you've constructed.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
Thank you.

So your vaunted 95% of pilots and A & P mechanics at the Pilots for Truth discussion board amounts to...two people. Two whose qualifications to make a determination (by photo analysis alone, I take it?) as to whether or not a 757 crashed at the Pentagon you're certain of.
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No 95% of 20-30 aviation professionals.

I am sorry they are not over-confident, anonymous, "critical thinkers", on a magician's forum board.

We should have consulted you guys on the pentagon attack. Clearly you know what you are talking about.:rolleyes:
 
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