*split* Lyte's proof that the Lloyd England's experience is false

Lyte Trip said:
Innocent people are dying EVERY DAY because of 9/11.

Countless 10's of thousands.

We aren't copying anybody.

We are reporting the evidence in a quest for justice for those that have been and will be killed because of this heinous crime.
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Every day people die

Every day people lie

We can't count the lies

Only the bodies


One thousand coincidences do not amount to a single fact.
 
tsig said:
So the Lloyd thing was done for propaganda effect?

How far do we have to go to fool the rubes?

Can I have the playbook? this is getting cinfusing.
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Here ya go!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
 
Lyte Trip said:
Innocent people are dying EVERY DAY because of 9/11.

Countless 10's of thousands.

We aren't copying anybody.

We are reporting the evidence in a quest for justice for those that have been and will be killed because of this heinous crime.
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Every day people die

Every day people lie

We can't count the lies

Only the bodies


One thousand coincidences do not amount to a single fact.
 
Gaspode said:
How are people dying every day because of 9/11?
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Are you being facetious?

Besides the countless first responders that are sick and dying as a direct result of toxic dust if you haven't noticed since 9/11 we have been told we are in a permanent global war against a shadowy uncatchable enemy labeled "terror".

You really ought to read the news more often.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Are you being facetious?

Besides the countless first responders that are sick and dying as a direct result of toxic dust if you haven't noticed since 9/11 we have been told we are in a permanent global war against a shadowy uncatchable enemy labeled "terror".

You really ought to read the news more often.
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I wasn't aware the toxic dust was causing deaths on a daily basis. That does not appear to be the case.

And the US did not need the events of September 11 2001 as a excuse to invade Iraq.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Are you being facetious?

Besides the countless first responders that are sick and dying as a direct result of toxic dust if you haven't noticed since 9/11 we have been told we are in a permanent global war against a shadowy uncatchable enemy labeled "terror".

You really ought to read the news more often.
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Those first responders are directly responsible for their own deaths according to you.

You really ought to think more often
 
Lyte I love how you imply that anybody who doesn't share your world view just HAS to simply not been paying attention to world events.

Of course. It's because we don't know what's going on in the world and don't think for ourselves. That's the ONLY way anybody can disagree with you, huh?

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Originally Posted by jaydeehess
Nope, they ALL say that the plane hit the Pentagon and Robert has the plane on a significantly different path than Lyte would have us believe it took.

,,,,, but that's all OK with Lyte....................
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Lyte Trip said:
Robert does not. He placed the plane on the North side of the Citgo. PERIOD.

He explained the right wing was closer to the canopy and the plane was further north, when we got closer to details.

We had him draw the flight path the day before his interview, in the store while he was on the job. He obviously cleared up where the plane was at, rather than quickly drawing the flight path on an image that has every little details on it.
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Begging to differ but Robert places the flight path between two trees on the edge of the Citgo station. That is he indicates that is where it went which is a dozen or so feet north of where he originally drew the plane. Originally he had it going directly over the canopy. None of your other witnesses put the plane so close to the station, not by any stretch of anyone's imagination.

Yes, he has it going north of the station. So it matters not a whit to you where anyone says the plane was, starboard wing over the canopy of a hundred yards past the canopy. To you this means that Brooks, Lagasse, and Robert have the plane along the same path.
If one of them had said it came from over Baltimore that would be just fine since that is north of the Citgo station at the Pentagon.
 
Lyte Trip said:
First of all this isn't very plausible because a significant amount of the top of the pole would have to be lodged through the frame of the car behind the back seat in order for this to work.

I suppose it's hypothetically possible. But it's not possible in reality when you consider the facts.

The top of the pole was curved like this:

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So pretty much the entire curve would have to be lodged in the car for your scenario to work.

But let's suggest for a moment that it was.

Did you even listen to Lloyd's account?

He says he personally REMOVED the pole with help from a silent stranger but that he FELL DOWN in the process of removing it because he didn't know the top end was curved.

He made no mention of it being difficult to remove because it was lodged in the car.

And here is Lloyd on the street with the pole removed already. But look at the roof line of the Pentagon:

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It's still intact!

The roof collapsed at 9:57 so in less than 19 minutes after a major catastrophe of these proportions after he barely escaped death we're supposed to believe that Lloyd figured he'd better hurry up and try removing the pole himself!

Even if it wasn't a major world wide catastrophe would ANY ONE OF YOU attempt to remove a big long heavy light pole that was lodged in your car within minutes after a major accident?

Wouldn't you just wait for the police and let them deal with it?

I met Lloyd. He is a small rather frail old man. Even with help I can't imagine him removing that pole in ANY circumstances.

Plus imagine how hard it would be to remove a pole that was lodged in the frame of the car so much that the light top end supported the heavy long base end being suspended in mid-air over the hood!

AND the hood was never even scratched as he removed the pole and while he fell down doing it!


Will at least ONE of you put your critical thinking caps on for a moment and admit how absurd this all is?
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I will give you some help. Do not show physical evidence that proves your stuff wrong. These photos show poles hit by a plane doing 463KIAS and on a final heading as found in the FDR recovered from the Pentagon of flight 77 alone with DNA and bodies.

So if you want to make up the north of the CITGO station stuff, do not show evidence that counters it. Just a reminder, your witnesses, a few of them have statements recorded 5 years ago that prove your statements wrong.

When you argue about physics I suggest you take some course on accident investigation at USC, it would help you understand how you statements are wrong in this very post. Good luck, and you need to stop presenting counter evidence to you own position. Does anyone believe your statements?
 
Gaspode said:
I wasn't aware the toxic dust was causing deaths on a daily basis. That does not appear to be the case.

And the US did not need the events of September 11 2001 as a excuse to invade Iraq.
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First responders are most certainly in the process of dying as a result of 9/11.

What a shame that you would minimize the daily hell they are going through and the inevitable result of their sickness.

And I beg to differ about Iraq.

Iraq is called the "central front of the war on terror "and 9/11 most certainly was used as the pretext that justified this war.

Cheney to this day cites a connection between Saddam and OBL.
 
tsig said:
Those first responders are directly responsible for their own deaths according to you.

You really ought to think more often
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Quote where I have ever accused first responders as being the perpetrators of this crime.

Anyway....gotta go for now.
 
tsig said:
Every day people die

Every day people lie

We can't count the lies

Only the bodies


One thousand coincidences do not amount to a single fact.
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So you lie because you think others are telling lies? So you make up the north of the Citgo station story without evidence? Why are you telling lies about 9/11? Why not get some facts and attack the reasons instead of making up lies?
 
From my post 101 summary of your senario Lyte

jaydeehess said:
gg) all the witnesses who state that the plane hit the ground floor, or that it flew along the 'official' flight path are either mistaken, fooled by the fireball and downed lamp posts, or they are lying and probably part of the complex scheme.
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True or false Lyte?

h) the plane pulls up fast enough and banks out of the area fast enough that no one, on other sides than the impact side of the Pentagon, who's attention would be drawn to the huge orange fireball, would notice this large jet travelling at no more than about 80 feet agl as it passed through and behind the fireball.
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True or false Lyte?

,,, and of course the second plane you propose was there (which none of your Citgo stars saw) also pulled up and banked away and no one noticed it either. Right?

Two planes roaring along and veering off and pulling up near the Pentagon and no one noticed. Right?

,,, and you see nothing wrong with believeing that. Right?

i) the actual flight 77 and all of its souls on board were then caused to disappear or the flight and all those people were faked. Fake life histories, fake families, faked phone calls, no such flight.
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True or false Lyte?
 
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Lyte Trip said:
Cheney to this day cites a connection between Saddam and OBL.
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,, and at last count less than 20% of the population of the USA believes that Irag had any connection to 9/11, IIRC.

,, and when Bush first made the allusions that Iraq and 9/11 were somehow tied together he could not convince more than 50% of the US population at that time. He certainly did not convince most of the MSM. You know the MSM that are in the pocket of the administration, that MSM.

Basically only the Fox Noise Channel backed that idea.
 
Lyte Trip said:
First responders are most certainly in the process of dying as a result of 9/11.

What a shame that you would minimize the daily hell they are going through and the inevitable result of their sickness.

And I beg to differ about Iraq.

Iraq is called the "central front of the war on terror "and 9/11 most certainly was used as the pretext that justified this war.

Cheney to this day cites a connection between Saddam and OBL.
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The first responders are dying form HCL, SO2, and DIOXIN exposure from the very conditions that most probably doomed the buildings in the first place fire and strong acids present in them.

The fact that the building have the natural conditions in them for their own violent destruction kind of mutes your evidence on the pentagon, because no controlled Demolition no need for faking a plane strike into the pentagon.

The more I research this the more I see just how bad the conditions in the buildings actually were.
 
Just to be clear, Lyte does not believe that the plane his witnesses saw was AA77. He refers to 1 or 2 other witnesses who described it as "a white plane" and disregards all of the other witnesses. Typical.

So, not only was there some kind of magical flyover that nobody saw, it wasn't AA77.
 
Oh, I got more than enough answers, believe you me. "That's a reflection, and even if it is damage, it's not REAL damage."

I'm willing to spot him the flawless hood in exchange for Craig's jawdropping assertion that the 9/11 planners intentionally faked the physical evidence in a direction that they knew the plane was not going to fly. Craig evidently wants the first ever Lifetime Achievement Stundie.
 
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