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Sovereign Citizen Challenges Obama Ballot Status

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Since the conspiracy theory subsection often discusses FOTL/sovereign citizen madness, I thought I'd put this story here:

A man from Juneau, Alaska, has filed suit with the state’s Division of Elections to bar President Obama from appearing on that state’s ballot on the basis that the President is a “Mulatto“, and “Before the [purported] ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, the race of ‘Negro‘ or ‘Mulatto‘ had no standing to be citizens of the United States under the United States Constitution,” according to the lawsuit.

This is not a joke.

According to a lawsuit filed February 21, 2012 by a Mr. Gordon Warren Epperly, who lists his address as a P.O. Box.
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Source: http://www.turningleft.net/2012/02/...un-in-alaska-because-hes-of-the-mulatto-race/ ... although it's been picked up by a few blogs and small news sites, such as theGrio and Clutch Magazine.

Epperly seems to be one of those people who thinks that "14th amendment 'citizens'" aren't really citizens. The article cited above has a link to a PDF of his latest complaint.

Last year, he also went after Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin for similar reasons, in a letter to Chief Justice Roberts. He even used the all-caps-name argument in his concluding disclaimer.

A quick web-search on this Epperly fellow turns up a lot references to a website called http://www.14th-amendment.com/ . Maybe it's his. He also has written some weird letters to the editor at juneauempire.com.

Some humorous reading material for your weekend. :)
 
Well, at least he's being honest in his "No ******* in the Whitehouse" position, unlike every other Birther out there.
 
Horatius said:
Well, at least he's being honest in his "No ******* in the Whitehouse" position, unlike every other Birther out there.
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And no women either, which to me was a new angle on the Fourteenth Amendment.
 
GreyArea said:
A quick web-search on this Epperly fellow turns up a lot references to a website called http://www.14th-amendment.com/ . Maybe it's his. He also has written some weird letters to the editor at juneauempire.com.
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Wow, that's a bad website! Not quite Time Cube, but getting there. I didn't get very far, because it started playing obnoxiously loud music which I couldn't see how to turn off, but I did read his "legal disclaimer," which basically says that (among other things) if he decides he doesn't like you, you have to destroy any copy of anything on his website that you might have made.
 
Jon. said:
Wow, that's a bad website!
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Indeed. I haven't seen textured background tiles and horizontal bar GIF's like that in years.

I've noticed that a lot of these far-right crank sites look straight out of 1995. Or Geocities. Or both. I wonder why they do that. Maybe they truly do believe that the old days and the old ways were better.
 
So....so black Americans aren't "real" citizens? This is what what I'm taking from this and a cursory wiki reading...

I...that's.......MAN!
 
BaaBaa said:
So....so black Americans aren't "real" citizens? This is what what I'm taking from this and a cursory wiki reading...

I...that's.......MAN!
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Yup, that's what this nut says and apparently women aren't "real" citizens either. How convenient.
 
BaaBaa said:
So....so black Americans aren't "real" citizens? This is what what I'm taking from this and a cursory wiki reading...

I...that's.......MAN!
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The treatment of colored Americans and women as though they were citizens certainly does explain a lot about the decline of American greatness. But you gotta give his guy credit. At least he takes Ron Paul more seriously even than Ron Paul takes himself, instead of pretending that his logic doesn't count for the things he doesn't like.

Where do American Indians fall in all this? Were they all voting citizens? Or is it only White folk?
 
Scott Sommers said:
The treatment of colored Americans and women as though they were citizens certainly does explain a lot about the decline of American greatness.
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If by "greatness" you mean "abhorant racism and barbaric treatment of fellow human beings" then yes, it does explain why that is declining. And long may it continue to decline.

There is a very good reason to treat women and people with a different skin colour as citizens: They are.
 
Tomtomkent said:
If by "greatness" you mean "abhorant racism and barbaric treatment of fellow human beings" then yes, it does explain why that is declining. And long may it continue to decline.

There is a very good reason to treat women and people with a different skin colour as citizens: They are.
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Thanks for telling me. I hadn't realized this until you mentioned it. Good on ya' man.
 
Scott Sommers said:
Where do American Indians fall in all this? Were they all voting citizens? Or is it only White folk?
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The 14th Amendment originally gave some Native Americans voting rights.

Elk v. Wilkins established that Native American tribes represented independent political powers with no allegiance to the United States, and that their peoples were under a special jurisdiction of the United States. Children born to these Native American tribes therefore did not automatically receive citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment if they voluntarily left their tribe.[22] Indian tribes that paid taxes were exempt from this ruling; their peoples were already citizens by an earlier act of Congress, and all non-citizen Native Americans (called "Indians") were subsequently made citizens by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.
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So, I think if you follow Sovereign citizen nonsense, only white men are citizens and get to vote. Yay, disenfranchisement!
 
Lisa Simpson said:
So, I think if you follow Sovereign citizen nonsense, only white men are citizens and get to vote. Yay, disenfranchisement!
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This is a ridiculous expansion of traditional voting rights! I insist we restrict it to only those white men who are landed property owners.

We mustn't let those upstart Irish ragamuffins gain undue influence!
 
GreyArea said:
Indeed. I haven't seen textured background tiles and horizontal bar GIF's like that in years.

I've noticed that a lot of these far-right crank sites look straight out of 1995. Or Geocities. Or both. I wonder why they do that. Maybe they truly do believe that the old days and the old ways were better.
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That was the first thing that struck me, very Geocities-like.
And not in a good way.
 
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