Something other than a god being the intelligent designer?

[Foster Zygote]

That is likely exactly what the great deception could be in the Bible. All the ufo's and alien abductions are Satan's way of putting doubt in peoples hearts.

Then one day we have massive ufo's over every major city in the world speaking about peace and that they seeded the earth millions of years ago.

People like you would believe this and be lost.

Something to be aware of.

Watch the skies! James Arness is comming!

 

[Towlie]

Since the ID crowd try to avoid mentioning God when discussing their "scientific theory", are they open to the possibility that someone or something other than a god is the intelligent designer?

The intelligent designer? Not designers?

I saw a documentary on TV once where lions in Africa hunted down a gnu and began eating him while he was still alive. It was very unpleasant to watch. With nature full of examples like that, where life exists at the expense and suffering of other life, wouldn't it make more sense to assume that there must have been thousands of separate intelligent designers competing against each other, with each designer caring only about the survival of his own creation?

After all, why would a single creator design predators that have to hunt and kill prey to survive and then design prey with mediocre defenses against those predators? Why design lions who eat gnus alive? Does this single creator enjoy watching life struggle and suffer, or what? Wouldn't it be more intelligent to create life forms that share the planet in peace and harmony?

It seems to me that my "several thousand competitive intelligent designers" hypothesis makes more sense than the popular single intelligent designer scenario, although I really don't think these "ID" people would be willing to accept it any more than they accept evolution.

 

[TaoMacGuy]

The intelligent designer? Not designers?

I saw a documentary on TV once where lions in Africa hunted down a gnu and began eating him while he was still alive.

And perhaps even more to the point, what's the deal with all the useless body parts we have? If you ask me, that is not indicative of a very intelligent designer.

Here's a few:

• The Appendix
• Male Nipples
• Body Hair
• Wisdom Teeth
• Male Uterus

There are others (I think you get the idea). You can go here to see a brief description of the above.

And the appendix! It sometimes kills people for crying out loud. What, did "the designer" have some spare parts lying around it needed to use?

Oh and by the way, insofar as we understand all of the above useless parts, evolution explains them quite nicely, thank you very much. Insofar as we don't understand these useless parts... well, we have more to learn and understand.

 

[TimCallahan]

Maybe the intelligent designer of our universe is a super-intelligent ichnoumenid wasp, which is why they're part of our creation. These are the creatures who probably served as the source of the life cycle of the monster in "Alien."

On the other hand, maybe the whole thing was designed by a committee.

 

[TaoMacGuy]

Maybe the intelligent designer of our universe is a super-intelligent ichnoumenid wasp, which is why they're part of our creation."

Dolphins, it's the dolphins.

 

[Geezer]

Intelligent designer...pfft!
How intelligent is it to put an entertainment section between two sewage plants?Worst placement of penis/vagina ever!

 

[realpaladin]

Ok....

I confess.... I did it.... but it was not on purpose and anyway it was not supposed to look like this.... sorry... will not happen again....

 

[rain]

It seems that the strongest argument of the ID community is that the universe seems fairly fine-tuned to support the possibility of life. However, even this idea is not very compelling if one considers the Many Worlds quantum interpretation that would make some universes like ours appear specially tuned to facilitate life whereas the vast majority would be dead.

When scientists reach the point of being able to create baby universes, which seems possible, I think we will be able to learn more about the possibility that our own universe may or may not have been created in a similar way.

 

[TimCallahan]

Intelligent designer...pfft!
How intelligent is it to put an entertainment section between two sewage plants?Worst placement of penis/vagina ever!

Yeah, that definitely had be a committee decision.