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Some Buildings do Fall Over

This incident was discussed in a thread a while back, and from time to time this does happen, but it's highly dependent upon the construction of the building in question. This one had a pretty bad failure in the foundation IIRC (and the article seems to confirm my recollection).
 
Grizzly Bear said:
This incident was discussed in a thread a while back, and from time to time this does happen, but it's highly dependent upon the construction of the building in question. This one had a pretty bad failure in the foundation IIRC (and the article seems to confirm my recollection).
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A friend sent it to me in one of those "pass it on" emails.

Clear case of poor engineering of the total system. ie piled foundations possibly OK with natural ground but no strength to resist the unbalanced soil conditions created by post excavating car parking. Add water saturation from heavy rains. Ooops. Shear strength of the piles is one apparent weakness but the "macro" situation was probably unstable also.
 
I once seen a japanese book about some earthquakes over there (more than 10 years ago for sure), with a lot of buildings like this. I don't see though why compare this to a truther claim of thermite and etc.
 
fallout said:
I once seen a japanese book about some earthquakes over there (more than 10 years ago for sure), with a lot of buildings like this. I don't see though why compare this to a truther claim of thermite and etc.
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In earthquake zones, buildings are much sturdier than in stable regions due to more strict building codes. Since earthquakes shake back and forth, the buildings must be able to withstand lateral forces. This also allows them to stay in one piece as they fall over.

Buildings in New York City don't have to withstand much lateral force (other than high winds), so they tend to fall apart if tilted more than a few degrees.
 
ozeco41 said:
I just thought this could be of interest. Wonder what the truthers would make of the explanation?

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/shanghai-building-collapses-nearly-intact/
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Interestingly, despite the world wide appeal and spread of 911TM in the comments section I found no one bringing 911 up.

Now. I would imagine, in answer to the OP question, that the TM would say something along the lines of " aha, see what happens when lower parts give way, the structure topples"

Another tact might be to point out that the building remained largely intact .

However unless a truther deciedes to chime in here why would we discuss it?
 
Funny thing is if the WT towers had collapsed like that they would be saying it looked "funny" because everyone knows that a steel frame tube in tube building would look like a CD :)
 
sheeplesnshills said:
Funny thing is if the WT towers had collapsed like that they would be saying it looked "funny" because everyone knows that a steel frame tube in tube building would look like a CD :)
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I mentioned this before long ago, but when I was in junior high school I saw a picture in a science fiction magazine that depicted New York City hundreds of years after being abandoned (for whatever reason). The World Trade Center towers were depicted as lying on their sides, having apparently fallen over. Banged up, but mostly intact.

It seemed realistic at the time, but now we know better.

Well, most of us do.
 
aggle-rithm said:
I mentioned this before long ago, but when I was in junior high school I saw a picture in a science fiction magazine that depicted New York City hundreds of years after being abandoned (for whatever reason). The World Trade Center towers were depicted as lying on their sides, having apparently fallen over. Banged up, but mostly intact.

It seemed realistic at the time, but now we know better.

Well, most of us do.
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I remember a long time ago way before 9/11 ever happened where me and a friend were talking about the Earth and how humans were supposedly killing the Earth with modernization and pollution. I told her that humans can never kill the Earth. We will someday be extinct like the dinosaurs. I said in fact someday there will be absolutely no trace we were ever even here at all. That's how insignificant we are compared to the Earth.

You know what she said?

"Come on? Do you really believe that some day there won't even be a trace of the something like the WTC?"

True story.
 
Profanz said:
"Come on? Do you really believe that some day there won't even be a trace of the something like the WTC?"

True story.
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without human intervention, natural forces would have indeed caused the WTC to completely collapse, rust, and dissappear into memory.
 
Profanz said:
You know what she said?

"Come on? Do you really believe that some day there won't even be a trace of the something like the WTC?"
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So what was your reply? And if you said "No, some day there won't be anything left of the WTC", doesn't that mean that you predicted the attack and are therefore part of the conspiracy? I think you should be doing some very serious investigation into your own background. Have you asked yourself where you were on 9/11?

Dave
 
Profanz said:
I remember a long time ago way before 9/11 ever happened where me and a friend were talking about the Earth and how humans were supposedly killing the Earth with modernization and pollution. I told her that humans can never kill the Earth. We will someday be extinct like the dinosaurs. I said in fact someday there will be absolutely no trace we were ever even here at all. That's how insignificant we are compared to the Earth.

You know what she said?

"Come on? Do you really believe that some day there won't even be a trace of the something like the WTC?"

True story.
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So there's no trace of the WTC?
 
Profanz said:
I remember a long time ago way before 9/11 ever happened where me and a friend were talking about the Earth and how humans were supposedly killing the Earth with modernization and pollution. I told her that humans can never kill the Earth. We will someday be extinct like the dinosaurs. I said in fact someday there will be absolutely no trace we were ever even here at all. That's how insignificant we are compared to the Earth.

You know what she said?

"Come on? Do you really believe that some day there won't even be a trace of the something like the WTC?"

True story.
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lol.

There seems to be no boundaries at to how far and wide your imaginations can stretch. Was that a flat earth you discussed?
 
parky76 said:
without human intervention, natural forces would have indeed caused the WTC to completely collapse, rust, and dissappear into memory.
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Into it's own footprint.

The series "Life After People" shows numerous simulations of skyscrapers collapsing after a few centuries of neglect. In the simulations they all collapse straight down, with the exception of some of the older ones like the Empire State building, which is sturdy enough to maintain a pretty steep angle before it falls downward.

Are the producers of this show "in on it"?

Interestingly, the show said that the skylines would be like a time machine going backward, with the more recently built skyscrapers collapsing first, followed by the more sturdily built "legacy" buildings.
 
Profanz said:
I remember a long time ago way before 9/11 ever happened where me and a friend were talking about the Earth and how humans were supposedly killing the Earth with modernization and pollution. I told her that humans can never kill the Earth. We will someday be extinct like the dinosaurs. I said in fact someday there will be absolutely no trace we were ever even here at all. That's how insignificant we are compared to the Earth.

You know what she said?

"Come on? Do you really believe that some day there won't even be a trace of the something like the WTC?"

True story.
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I remember a long time ago way before 9/11 ever happened and the movie "King Kong" came out (1976), an expert said the plot was implausible because the World Trade Center would collapse under the weight of a giant monkey stomping around.

True story.
 
aggle-rithm said:
I remember a long time ago way before 9/11 ever happened and the movie "King Kong" came out (1976), an expert said the plot was implausible because the World Trade Center would collapse under the weight of a giant monkey stomping around.

True story.
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LOL I thought it was implausible because because Kong himself would collapse under his own weight stomping around.

Do think perhaps that Kong weakened the structures? Have the CTers taken that into account? did he perhaps hit WTC7 on the way down? I think we need a new investigation! :)
 
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