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So will the world respond?

rikzilla said:
The only proof I see is of your arrogant attitude and "inferier" spelling skills.

Please provide proof of your assertion. Name the 3rd world countries who are superior to the USA. Let's see if you can name one that doesn't enslave people, pray to a rock, have a special section of the police force which hunts down witches, or have a Dear Leader instead of a legislature. Go ahead we'll wait.
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Wait no more. Here is my first answer. Yes, my spelling is inferior. But your challenge looks too easy. What have I overlooked?

I do not know any country that still hunts down witches. All I can interpret from what you are saying is that you want me to name 3rd world countries that have democracy and does not have many laws for religious reasons (Israel gets disqualified for that reason). Below is a list of some such countries I can think of. I am sure there are plenty of others. If you want to add any criteria that is OK. I am adding one more criteria. Their economy is growing. I say any 3rd world country that has a growing economy is doing something right.

India (A country to watch.)
South Korea (This country is an example of how to change from a poor country into one which has GDP per capita $19,200 (2004 est.))
Singapore (but how democratic is this country?)
Brazil. (Leading economic power of South America)

Reference
 
geni said:

No, these guys know the real reason.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world...fundamentalists/2005/09/03/1125302770263.html

As religious and political leaders offered prayers for the victims of Hurricane Katrina, some Christian fundamentalists suggested the storm was the work of an angry God bent on punishing a sinful nation.

In news releases and internet chat rooms, some fundamentalists said the hurricane was sent to punish New Orleans, a city known for Mardi Gras and other raucous festivals.

Others said the disaster, which may have killed thousands in Louisiana and Mississippi, was revenge for the United States' support of the removal of Jewish settlers in the Gaza Strip.

"Whenever this country encourages Israel to give up any part of their rightful God-given land we have suffered the consequences," wrote a discussion-board participant on the website of the Christian Broadcasting Network.

A Philadelphia group called Repent America said the hurricane was sent by God to prevent an annual gay pride festival that was due to take place this weekend.

"We must not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long," said Repent America director Michael Marcavage. "May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits."

Evangelical leaders like Jerry Falwell and Christian Broadcasting Network founder Pat Robertson urged their followers to pray for the victims and contribute to relief efforts, but made no public statements about the reason for the hurricane.

But Franklin Graham, who heads the evangelical charity Samaritan's Purse, said on the Fox News Channel the mayhem and looting in New Orleans could be traced to a lack of religious instruction.
 
CapelDodger said:
What's your position on cats? Cats are evil too. When the gods punish the cats the people who tolerate and pander to them catch the fallout.

It's not gays, people, it's cats.
Cats get automatic and free membership to any cult dedicated to evil.

CapelDodger said:
"The Gods, United, Will Never Be Defeated". Makes for a good chant.
My cult just got a moto. :D
 
This just in :

The government of Norway is sending two million dollars, medicine, oil and five Royal Navy divers to assist the US government in their time of crisis.

Imagine that, giving foreign aid to the most powerful nation on the planet :D
 
Ryokan said:
This just in :

The government of Norway is sending two million dollars, medicine, oil and five Royal Navy divers to assist the US government in their time of crisis.

Imagine that, giving foreign aid to the most powerful nation on the planet :D
And it's a Royal Navy that's helping out. That must sting.
 
Kerberos said:
Cats get automatic and free membership to any cult dedicated to evil.
We have presented an object-lesson in how to respond to the approaches of a cult. Question and gain new data. "Dedicated to evil", you say? That wasn't mentioned earlier. Damned if I'll start being dedicated to anything.

But you don't declare your own cult's position on cats, dedication or evil. Buddha you've crushed with disdain, but when it comes to a real power in the world - cats - you become indeterminate.

I'm going to start my own cult. At least I'll know where I stand.
 
originally posted by Ed
Let's see if you can name one that doesn't enslave people, pray to a rock, have a special section of the police force which hunts down witches, or have a Dear Leader instead of a legislature.
Slavery - see http://www.iabolish.com/today/features/us/map/mainpage.htm for slavery in the USA

Pray to a rock - See 'On the other hand, some European goverments see the United States attitude as lack of responsibility of the state regarding the wellbeing of its citizens, especially concerning children and incapacitated persons, and claim that it is, at least partially due to lobbying of cults and cult apologists with the United States government.' from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult#Cults_and_governments

Special section of police forces - 'A number of hints of the project's existence did become public in the 1980s however, when Joseph McMoneagle claimed in public to have been employed as a "psychic spy" for some sixteen years before leaving the U.S. Army.' from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing#CIA_involvement Sylvia Browne currently claims on her web site to help the police solve crimes.

Dear leader - Who once won a presidential elecction for an office previously occupied by the candidates father in a state governed by the candidate's brother with an electoral process overseen by the election agent of the presidential candidate?
 
rjh01 said:
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation news

Warning. The content of the above shows how dangerous the city is. Sample

I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that the past several days in New Orleans show that the US is a "bad" country? If that is the case, then is any country that has had even a single similar incident in its past "bad"? If not, then what is the difference?
 
Freakshow said:
I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that the past several days in New Orleans show that the US is a "bad" country? If that is the case, then is any country that has had even a single similar incident in its past "bad"? If not, then what is the difference?
From time to time, a whole city will be badly damaged from a natural disaster. You will often then get some looting. Then after a day or two order is restored. The people who want to can get out; food and other supplies come in. That is normal. What is happening here is different; it is almost a second disaster on top of the first. I cannot remember any disaster where such things quoted in the article happened all in one disaster. This is not just an isolated case of a few people doing stupid things. That happens in many places. It is many people doing stupid things causing the complete breakdown of law and order and the failure of the government to quickly restore order..

Do you know where the law and order has broken down for several days in any developed country for any reason, in either the 20th or 21st centuries? Because I cannot. So why has it happened in New Orleans? Is it because of American society is ‘bad’ as I tried to argue above? Or is it just an extreme case of a normal reaction to a disaster? Or is there some other reason?

At least order is being restored now. Law and order 'restored'
 
rjh01 said:
From time to time, a whole city will be badly damaged from a natural disaster. You will often then get some looting. Then after a day or two order is restored. The people who want to can get out; food and other supplies come in. That is normal. What is happening here is different; it is almost a second disaster on top of the first. I cannot remember any disaster where such things quoted in the article happened all in one disaster. This is not just an isolated case of a few people doing stupid things. That happens in many places. It is many people doing stupid things causing the complete breakdown of law and order and the failure of the government to quickly restore order..

Do you know where the law and order has broken down for several days in any developed country for any reason, in either the 20th or 21st centuries? Because I cannot. So why has it happened in New Orleans? Is it because of American society is ‘bad’ as I tried to argue above? Or is it just an extreme case of a normal reaction to a disaster? Or is there some other reason?

At least order is being restored now. Law and order 'restored'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots
 
The world has responded, including the diabolical French, and George the Second has said "no thanks".

Rednecks across the country rejoice.
 
Interesting link, Freakshow. It does mention many riots; many of them due to ethnic tension or political reasons. I cannot find any riots in the list due to natural disasters. There have been many natural disasters, like Cyclone Tracy, which wiped out Darwin in 1974. However there was no wide spread looting and no break down of law and order. So, what is the difference between Cyclone Tracy and what happened in New Orleans?


I notice that even Hurricane Andrew did not produce riots or break down of law and order.

Cyclone Tracy

I notice in the cyclone link below looting or breakdown in law and order are not even mentioned in the secondary effects of a tropical cyclone.

Tropical cyclone
 
rjh01 said:
I do not know any country that still hunts down witches
Some African nations still officially arrest and prosecute people based on witchcraft. Not on a national basis ususally; but it's far from uncommon in smaller, more isolated communities. I've heard that there are African nations where witchcraft is still prosecuted on an active, national scale; but haven't been able to verify.

In Haiti, people can still be arrested and prosecuted for sorcery. There were 12 people arrested in 1997 for accusations of sorcery and public disturbance. (They were released later, because the accusations were not proven; but others have been convicted and jailed for sorcery).

In Islamic nations a special police force, the hisba (aka "morals police"), is maintained to punish "morals" offenses; which includes, among other things, witchcraft, blasphemy, homosexuality, adultery, and apostasy. Some of these, such as witchcraft, are punishable by death. Saudi Arabia and Iran are two nations that do so actively on a national basis.
 

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