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So, was Jesus Resurrected?

bokonon said:
Lots of the eyewitnesses didn't seem to recognize Jesus, so I'd say that someone who maybe resembled him tried to grab a bit of glory, much as Michael Jackson or David Bowie impersonators do today.
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No way! They would have been skeptical and simply asked this person who claimed he was Jesus, to replicate any number of his miracles. It is written that Thomas had to feel the wounds to believe. But walking on some water may have been really convincing.
 
bokonon said:
My big problem with accepting a miraculous resurrection is, why didn't he hang around? Two thousand years later, the "man who wouldn't die" would be a powerful convincer. Forty days and out seems more like a scam that somebody got tired of running.
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God or his son are not in the business of continually displaying seemingly supernatural evidence. The whole idea of separating man from angels, who KNOW God exists, is to see if man, separated from God's heavenly realm, will simply trust God in what God tells them. (That was the test of Adam) - Based on a faith system. And a faith system, not just based on competely groundless blind faith (that was good group, BTW) - but a faith based on a certain type of evidence that is only apparent to the person willing to work really hard at it in trying to verify for themselves if God exists or not. The ingredients of this faith are so numerous, that many lazy people give up and take the easy way out, by scoffing at the notion.
 
So, this enterprise is called God And Son? And they sell?
 
Of course. If I had such a product as eternal life to sell, I too would be a billionaire.

But most other companies would be bankrupt if they sold faulty products. :D
 
There was a kooky author named Allegro who wrote a book claiming the whole lot of them were eating magic mushrooms. That is Jesus and the apostles. :D
 
amb said:
There was a kooky author named Allegro who wrote a book claiming the whole lot of them were eating magic mushrooms. That is Jesus and the apostles. :D
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Actually, Allegro was no kook, his book is worth a read.

His point is that Jesus WAS only a mushroom, his followers ate his 'body'.


K.
 
Kapyong said:
Actually, Allegro was no kook, his book is worth a read.

His point is that Jesus WAS only a mushroom, his followers ate his 'body'.


K.
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That deserves at least a clap. So they weren't really cannibals. Just deluded vegetarians.
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The idea of life after death was probably the same. You live on in the thoughts of those who are left behind.
 
John M Allegro was no kook. I am still trying to work out if that book was actually a satire or not -- I have sometimes suspected it was -- but I think some serious research has been done on the use of magic mushrooms in ancient magical rites. Allegro however was an establishment Biblicl Studies figure, far more heavyweight than our modern types who write these things - Morton-Smith was another respectble academic with some very strange ideas. Definitely worth reading.

cj x
 
Gday J,

cj.23 said:
John M Allegro was no kook. I am still trying to work out if that book was actually a satire or not -- I have sometimes suspected it was -- but I think some serious research has been done on the use of magic mushrooms in ancient magical rites. Allegro however was an establishment Biblicl Studies figure, far more heavyweight than our modern types who write these things - Morton-Smith was another respectble academic with some very strange ideas. Definitely worth reading.
cj x
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Yah,
Allegro was an odd case - a scholar, but went way out on a limb. No-one ever took him seriously ever since, sadly.

But there's a good chance he was a serious, it's quite a scholarly work. Heck - there's even a faint chance he was right :-) (I always thought the odd Ignatius was really about mushrooms.)

Not all readers would know that Allegro worked on the Dead Sea Scrolls and was the only real scholar in a team of religious. He published his scrolls in a few years, while the others, like weirdo Strugnell, kept their own mss secret for many years until international scandal forced their hand.


K
 
Yes, I think Kapyong is right as usual. Allegro's work with the scrolls was exemplary.

Didn't the church also try to delay their release to the world because there was no mention there of the messiah who had already been on earth, namely Jesus?
 
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