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So much for "Security in Iraq is improving."

Mephisto

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A "suicider" made it through numerous checkpoints, untold security measures and into the green zone to detonate himself and kill eight people including two members of Iraq's fledgling government.

8 killed in suicide attack on Iraqi parliament

POSTED: 11:17 a.m. EDT, April 12, 2007

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The suicide attack in Iraq's parliament building on Thursday killed eight people, including two Iraqi lawmakers, and wounded 20, U.S. and Iraqi officials said.

After the attack in the building's cafeteria, more explosives were found near the parliament room and were destroyed in a controlled detonation, according to Iraqi lawmaker Iman al-Asadi.

It is unclear how the bomber was able to pass through the multiple security checkpoints required to enter the parliament building, which is in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone.

The Associated Press, citing Mohammed Abu Bakr, the parliament's media relations chief, said some security procedures had changed earlier in the day at a Green Zone entrance near the parliament building.

The entrance's security scanner was not working, Abu Bakr told the AP, and pedestrians entering the zone were subject to hand searches and passed through metal detectors, he said.

U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said that based on "the trends" of the attack, al Qaeda in Iraq is believed to be responsible for the bombing, although he stressed an investigation is under way.

The dead include at least two lawmakers, a Sunni and a Shiite, according to Muhanned Jabbar, an official with the office of Iraq's speaker of parliament.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/12/iraq.main/index.html
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Mephisto said:
A "suicider" made it through numerous checkpoints, untold security measures and into the green zone to detonate himself and kill eight people including two members of Iraq's fledgling government.
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Right. It's a war. The enemy (which I take it in this case is a Sunni fighter of some sort) is resourceful and motivated to do harm to his enemy, this Shia friendly government, at whatever cost to himself.

This has been going on since . . . hmm, about the summer of 2003, or are we forgetting the UN HQ?

How is "The Green Zone" fortified zone a reflection of "security in Iraq."

It is unclear how the bomber was able to pass through the multiple security checkpoints required to enter the parliament building, which is in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone.
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An inside job, perhaps. ;)

This successful mission is evidence of the resourcefulness and determination of one of the warring factions.

Were you surprised at this? When, not if. That is the security environment, in the US and in The Green Zone. The attacker has the initiative in this kind of war.

DR
 
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Darth Rotor said:
How is "The Green Zone" fortified zone a reflection of "security in Iraq."
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The green zone is largely thought of as the most secure area in Iraq.


Darth Rotor said:
Were you surprised at this? When, not if. That is the security environment, in the US and in The Green Zone. The attacker has the initiative in this kind of war.

DR
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I'm surprised that it wasn't anticipated. I saw it as only a matter of time, and considering how everyone was patting themselves on the back over how well things were going, the timing couldn't have been better (from the insurgent's point of view).

For the record, I never attended a single Bob Hope USO tour because I couldn't help but picture the chaos of a well-timed rocket attack. ;)
 
Mephisto said:
The green zone is largely thought of as the most secure area in Iraq.
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Being in Baghdad, it's "security" is relative. Central Iraq (particularly the ring of fire) would be a place I'd not assume security. It seems about two million Iraqis who have fled the country would tend to support that idea.
I'm surprised that it wasn't anticipated.
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Of course it was anticipated, that is why they built the Green Zone in the first place.

It wasn't prevented. See my remarks on initiative, and the chances of an inside job.
I saw it as only a matter of time, and considering how everyone was patting themselves on the back over how well things were going, the timing couldn't have been better (from the insurgent's point of view).
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Concur.
For the record, I never attended a single Bob Hope USO tour because I couldn't help but picture the chaos of a well-timed rocket attack. ;)
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:D You have a fine survival instinct.

DR
 
If we weren't over there, he'd have blown up Congress instead of the Iraqi Parliament. He'd probably make some some women put on burkha's on his way there too!
 
Mephisto said:
Are you kidding, DR? I've seen some Iraqi women and some of them are downright BEAUTIFUL! We've got to "westernize" them and get them to wear LESS clothing. ;)
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So long as they sign up for the dental plan, I am with you 100%. OBL's niece is reasonably attractive her own self.

DR
 
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I think you forego notions that you are a skeptic when you claim a sample size of 1 is accurate. At least you've outed your biases over your rationality for all to see.
 
A suicide bomber or airline hijacker or anyone else jacked up on a religious crusade is something that no government on Earth can protect itself from totally.

So, other than making you feel better about your investment in defeat, what does this incident prove?
 
corplinx said:
I think you forego notions that you are a skeptic when you claim a sample size of 1 is accurate. At least you've outed your biases over your rationality for all to see.
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You're right. The incident is absolutely not indicative of the security situation in Iraq.
 
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