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So is this possible

The Traveler said:
Now you are again the ones just making assumptions. I never claimed to be one that had the gift of prophecy.

But just to piss you all off I'll give a link to a little study I did on the gift of prophecy as in the testing of it.

https://aplace4us-com.forumotion.com/t46-testing-the-spirits#175

You may as well look at it, you may learn something.
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I learned something alright and I offer my deep apologies for overestimating your intellectual capability.

Your test if whether a prophesy is real and true is whether the prophet accepts salvation to be found only in the name of Jesus.

"Trump will be back in the White House in August"
"Ok but do you accepts salvation to be found only in the name of Jesus."
"Why yes brother I do"
"Hallelujah, a true prophet who only speaks the truth"

Your test is beyond stupid. Rather than pissing me off it has given me a fantastic feeling of superiority.
 
We're all told repeatedly that Trump’s supporters are just sane and reasonable people whom we have to engage with, understanding their concerns and opening up a sensible dialogue that addresses them, rather than treating them as barking, frothing at the mouth, swivel-eyed loons who simply want to crush anyone who fails to worship their chosen leader. Personally I'd prefer to see things that way, but this thread isn't helping.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
We're all told repeatedly that Trump’s supporters are just sane and reasonable people whom we have to engage with, understanding their concerns and opening up a sensible dialogue that addresses them, rather than treating them as barking, frothing at the mouth, swivel-eyed loons who simply want to crush anyone who fails to worship their chosen leader. Personally I'd prefer to see things that way, but this thread isn't helping.
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I think that for some Trump followers it could be an idiosyncratic cognitive glitch, and they might otherwise be okay. I have a friend like that -- he's usually fine, but then he gets to right-wing ranting and his voice even changes. He hates immigrants, but of course he's an immigrant himself.

It's always bizarre to witness complete detachment from reality.
 
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turingtest said:
I found this site, "Prophecy Truths," which are largely from Mr Gibson, who seems like the usual fruitcake that suffers from logorrhea (at least). Interesting that The Traveler chose not to offer this particular prophecy, from Dec 7, 1995-



(Boldings as in original)
Apparently a war with Russia would begin sometime between 2005 and 2010, and the war would be ended by the US winning by means of some "new invention" given by god. Russia, in losing, would "change...their political agenda forever," and become a world leader in bringing god's salvation to all of the earth.

Anybody else here not remember any of those things happening?
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It’s because Gibson must be a prophet of the true God. There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad (pbuh) is his messenger. Allah clearly revealed to Gibson that the war between Russia and the US would be resolved by 2010, or 2571 in your Western calendar. Truly this shows Allah is Great indeed.
 
The Traveler said:
And this is where you all made the biggest blunder, God actually does exists and he does interact with those that take the time to seek him out. Probably something you lot will never experience to your loss.

The prophecies did not end with the last book of the bible, they still go on to this day. This is one from 1997, well before 911 but is starting to unfold today.

Now you are all going to dive in and ridicule this because you are ignorant, but it will make no real difference in the grand scheme of things because it will still play out even if you see it or not.
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I believe the Bible itself is all that is needed to debunk this. Lets start with "Beware of false teachers" Matthew or Peter. Given the lack of biblical references, you are following a false teacher; Begone Satan, we cast you out in the name of Jesus.

This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.
 
Dave Rogers said:
We're all told repeatedly that Trump’s supporters are just sane and reasonable people whom we have to engage with, understanding their concerns and opening up a sensible dialogue that addresses them, rather than treating them as barking, frothing at the mouth, swivel-eyed loons who simply want to crush anyone who fails to worship their chosen leader. Personally I'd prefer to see things that way, but this thread isn't helping.

Dave
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Every situation and individual earns the responses they receive.

Chosen great? leaders like chump or whomever did get response few others got. But it really only serves him to continue paying his bills, should he choose to do so.

Demanding everyone else just accept god can exist because ..... as a starting point of discussion sort of even sorts off a good portion of the religious inclined.
That reason has to be correct and, ultimately stated at all . Which is a point many believer types seem to avoid after they have experienced the destruction of any reason they gave before.

And then the next frustrated response can only be having said god condemn all non believers to eternal suffering and vocal ones to far worse. But only in the mind of that believer. The non believer isn't threatened in the least and slaps a LOON label on said believer either openly or discreetly.

The disconnect cannot be undone until one side has a serious change of beliefs.
 
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You know what I don't get? How so many devout Christians have been completely fooled by Trump, whose only god is himself. I'm a better Christian than he is, and I'm an atheist.
 
Trebuchet said:
You know what I don't get? How so many devout Christians have been completely fooled by Trump, whose only god is himself. I'm a better Christian than he is, and I'm an atheist.
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It seems that fundie preachers have perfected the art of religious grift. Passion opens checkbooks, and that's most readily and consistently accomplished by anger and fear. That's why they hold these fools by the nuts -- the right-wing political platform amounts to anger and fear.

They know how to harvest the low-lying fruit.
 
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eerok said:
It seems that fundie preachers have perfected the art of religious grift. Passion opens checkbooks, and that's most readily and consistently accomplished by anger and fear. That's why they hold these fools by the nuts -- the right-wing political platform amounts to anger and fear.

They know how to harvest the low-lying fruit.
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I think that prosperity gospel has helped sort the rubes from the chaff. As a kid in New York, Trump himself sat in a church listening to Norman Vincent Peale (The Power of Positive Thinking). Trump had lots of these charlatans around during his administration - Paula White comes to mind.

There is a demographic that sent their hard-earned cash to Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, Joel Osteen, Robert Jefress, Billy Graham etc. They have already passed the test as being gullible. Their TV preacher claims to leg-press 900 pounds, or shows off their lear jet paid for by the rubes. Trump has it pretty easy making his brand attractive for contributions from this unsavvy audience.
 
abaddon said:
Have you seen Whites kettle of crazy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUmMUmLYT1Y

1:17 of total insanity in her "prayer for Trump" Including speaking in tongues.

I challenge anyone to watch that and not conclude that she is flat out insane.
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It's pretty easy to act crazy, especially for money, and especially in a religious context. Maybe she's crazy, maybe not, but the people who fall for her schtick certainly are.
 
Trebuchet said:
You know what I don't get? How so many devout Christians have been completely fooled by Trump, whose only god is himself. I'm a better Christian than he is, and I'm an atheist.
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I am not the one equating Trump with Christianity, you guys are. I see it as separate subjects.

Trump is a patriot but an inexperienced politician. He is good at looking after the economics of the country but the deep state isolated and contained him and then spat him out. And the deep state has no trouble pulling all the dirty tricks out the bag to do it.

At the moment the Dems represent the globalists and hidden hand bankers. They are only too happy to break the USA completely and subjugate it to the NWO under a world government that is not elected and answerable to none.

That is not in the interest to the citizens of the USA and as Trump is the only viable representation out there he gets the peoples support.

The subject of Christ on the other hand is a separate subject. This NWO that is attempting to take over is very anti christian and anti God. It all started off with separating church from state then isolating the church and now it is the promotion of Satanism. Of course there is going to be conflict, the church and satan do not mix. Just look at the reaction on this very thread. The negative reaction to anything to do with Christ is getting a negative response way over any thing even vaguely proportionate.
 
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It's all nonsense though. We aren't reacting in anger or horror but amusement. God isn't real, the bible is a nonsense book of fairy tales.
 
The Traveler said:
I am not the one equating Trump with Christianity, you guys are. I see it as separate subjects.

Trump is a patriot but an inexperienced politician. He is good at looking after the economics of the country but the deep state isolated and contained him and then spat him out. And the deep state has no trouble pulling all the dirty tricks out the bag to do it.

At the moment the Dems represent the globalists and hidden hand bankers. They are only too happy to break the USA completely and subjugate it to the NWO under a world government that is not elected and answerable to none.

That is not in the interest to the citizens of the USA and as Trump is the only viable representation out there he gets the peoples support.

The subject of Christ on the other hand is a separate subject. This NWO that is attempting to take over is very anti christian and anti God. It all started off with separating church from state then isolating the church and now it is the promotion of Satanism. Of course there is going to be conflict, the church and satan do not mix. Just look at the reaction on this very thread. The negative reaction to anything to do with Christ is getting a negative response way over any thing even vaguely proportionate.
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That claim falls at the first hurdle: "Trump is a Patriot" I've heard that said a lot but haven't seen his words and deeds match the slogan.

What, precisely, has he done that establishes grounds for him to be regarded as patriotic? I'm looking for a track record - a single act doesn't cut it any more than going to church on Sunday outweighs being an asshat at all other times.

To avoid any confusion, what's your definition of a "patriot"?
 
Kid Eager said:
That claim falls at the first hurdle: "Trump is a Patriot" I've heard that said a lot but haven't seen his words and deeds match the slogan.

What, precisely, has he done that establishes grounds for him to be regarded as patriotic? I'm looking for a track record - a single act doesn't cut it any more than going to church on Sunday outweighs being an asshat at all other times.

To avoid any confusion, what's your definition of a "patriot"?
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patriot >noun a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it.
-DERIVATIVES patriotic >adjective patriotically >adverb patriotism >noun.
-ORIGIN Latin patriota 'fellow countryman', from Greek patris 'fatherland'.
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But the politicians you want us to support are all about how bad America is, that all whites are raciest, that we need to leave white privaledge behind, black lives matter but no others . Whites must die so lets import third world refugees.

Now I wonder why that all gets so little support from the traditional american people.
 
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