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So is this possible

Cosmic Yak said:
Did you actually read this? This is a piss-poor excuse for journalism. Obviously dishonest, and from a questionable source.
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And, ultimately, the claim it's making is that there was a concerted effort to (a) persuade lots of people to vote for Biden and (b) help those people get their votes registered. This is, in fact, simply democracy in action. The fact that Trump supporters are outraged that the Democratic process should be used to vote him out says a lot about them, and none of it good.

Dave
 
Norman Alexander said:
So what data will you accept that could change your mind?
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That is not how this works and why there is a stalemate.

To convince the skeptics here that he is right The Traveller needs to provide reliable data, solid evidence and facts that support his argument
Similarly if the skeptics are to convince The Traveller they need to put up a video by a swivel-eyed loon ranting about God, conspiracies, foreigners while making baseless and ludicrous claims.
 
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The Traveler said:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...espite-most-claims-being-debunked/ar-BB1bb5KT

https://www.ibtimes.sg/joe-biden-admits-election-fraud-video-confession-here-truth-54863

https://newsrescue.com/time-admits-2020-us-election-was-rigged-by-cabal-biden-kamala-victory/

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/full-list-of-biden-voter-fraud-proof/
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So, what do we have there?

First up a news report quoting, apparently, the CEO of OAN. That's credible...

Then a de-bunked video clip of an out of context "quote".

And then a piece which mangles the meaning of the original Time article (yes, I went and read that) to make it look like it says something other than it does.

And the last one is a list of alleged issues around voting in a number of places,but I cannot check a number of the links in that list as they don't want us European types looking.

I'm sold! Anyone got a spare Brooklyn Bridge they don't want?
 
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Carrot Flower King said:
So, what do we have there?

First up a news report quoting, apparently, the CEO of OAN. That's credible...

Then a de-bunked video clip of an out of context "quote".
And then a piece which mangles the meaning of the original Time article (yes, I went and read that) to make it look like it says something other than it does.

And the last one is a list of alleged issues around voting in a number of places,but I cannot check a number of the links in that list as they don't want us European types looking.

I'm sold! Anyone got a spare Brooklyn Bridge they don't want?
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That second one really got me chuckling. Sounded like Larry "pull it" Silverstein. You commit the crime of the century, get away with it, then go in front of a mike and brag about it. Yeah, who couldn't believe that?
 
The Traveler said:
I tell you what, this time I will only give you one link so you do not have to work too hard.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/audit-team-reports-74000-ballot-discrepancy-arizona-mail-votes/
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This is now the 5th link which is reporting different things to the other 4 links provided without commentary, again on different topics also.

The only thing that's been clear so far is that you"ll accept anything from anywhere that looks like it may agree with your preconceptions.

Let me be clear - I'd read all links before responding. Their failure to paint any coherent picture is your problem, not mine.

As for the Arizona "audit", I've stated previously in this thread that it fails the test of what an audit is from the very beginning. They didn't hire auditors, their methodology was weak and made up on the fly, the controls were effectively absent, and it was performed by people who have no expertise in auditing. If I attempted to foist that approach onto my clients, I wouldn't have a job.

Again: what is your *specific* claim? What do you believe is going to happen and when?
 
The Traveler said:
They went and polled a bunch of university students who have already been programmed to believe this crap and then its gets presented as a true survey of the nation.

That's the very definition of an echo chamber.

But if you want to believe that the nation really thinks this way then by all means, carry on in your delusion. Reality is going to be giving you a wake up call soon enough.
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No, it's not. If you and yours could have you would have. Though extremely unlikely to succeed, Trump's best chance was before the 20th of January.

And you just have an unsophisticated understanding of how sampling works. The pollsters tell you who they talked to (generally, by age gender party affiliation), it's how they come up with the sample size and type. They're also rated on the accuracy and checked by competing polls on the same subject.
 
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Kid Eager said:
This is now the 5th link which is reporting different things to the other 4 links provided without commentary, again on different topics also.

The only thing that's been clear so far is that you"ll accept anything from anywhere that looks like it may agree with your preconceptions.

Let me be clear - I'd read all links before responding. Their failure to paint any coherent picture is your problem, not mine.

As for the Arizona "audit", I've stated previously in this thread that it fails the test of what an audit is from the very beginning. They didn't hire auditors, their methodology was weak and made up on the fly, the controls were effectively absent, and it was performed by people who have no expertise in auditing. If I attempted to foist that approach onto my clients, I wouldn't have a job.

Again: what is your *specific* claim? What do you believe is going to happen and when?
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Well, his original question was whether, as of the middle of August, it was likely that Trump would be reinstated as Prez before the end of that month. Now, a month later, and after ignoring multiple posters pointing out that a grumpy attitude about losing an election is no substitute for an actual Constitutional mechanism for making a wish come true, his claim appears to have degenerated to a childish shaking of his fist in the general direction of teh libz and some revenge-porn fantasies about hanging a few of them, and something-something is going to happen real soon to make us all real sorry. (Shrug) Nothing we haven't seen before from other bad-loser posters here.
 
turingtest said:
Well, his original question was whether, as of the middle of August, it was likely that Trump would be reinstated as Prez before the end of that month. Now, a month later, and after ignoring multiple posters pointing out that a grumpy attitude about losing an election is no substitute for an actual Constitutional mechanism for making a wish come true, his claim appears to have degenerated to a childish shaking of his fist in the general direction of teh libz and some revenge-porn fantasies about hanging a few of them, and something-something is going to happen real soon to make us all real sorry. (Shrug) Nothing we haven't seen before from other bad-loser posters here.
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Dead-enders gonna dead end. Low-information trumpists first primed by propaganda from Fox news, then OANNism and Newsmax, have a credulous sunk cost that prevents any objective reality from getting in. As you note, we've seen this over and over and and OVAH!!
 
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Susheel said:
A website at the forefront of spreading conspiracy theories and fake news. Weren't these the guys who were leading the birther movement during the Obama years?
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And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
 
The Traveler said:
And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
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Where are the Americans claiming Obama wasn't born in America? All I hear that from are Trump supporters and everyone knows they're a lesser class of person. Trump supporters lack integrity and can't be trusted. Can you show me two Americans who can confirm the claims of the Trump supporters?
 
The Traveler said:
And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
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It's not often that you see a post that's completely and demonstrably inaccurate. Congratulations! 2013 wants its conspiracy theory back.
 
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