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So is this possible

8enotto said:
So.... Why didn't I see anything on the news yet?
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Nobody told me to stop working on projects signed into law by Biden. Yet. If there really was a CTRL-Z done, wouldn't that invalidate everything he signed?
 
Leftus said:
Wait, rather than bludgeon my way to the top, I could have just held a rally? I'm going to owe a few survivors an apology, to say the least.
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"Not leaving survivors means never having to apologize."
-Jack Handy (maybe)

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The Traveler said:
How many of you think Trump will be reinstated before the end of this month.
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In short answer to your thread title. No. [/thread]

In a slightly longer version. No, it's not. [/thread]

The long version. There is no legal or constitutional mechanism that can allow Trump to become President again before 2025, barring a strange outcome to the 2022 elections.

Even if some proof appeared that the election really was fraudulent, which it won't because they weren't, and both Biden and Harris had to resign, Nancy Pelosi would become President.

There is a constitutional line of succession and Trump is simply not in it, and so cannot be reinstated under any circumstances because with President Pro Tempore of the Senate being Patrick Leahy, there is no Republican in that chain of succession to make him VP and then resign.

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And no, the SCotUS can't overturn the election and declare Trump the winner, they simply don't have that power and that's not how election laws work.
 
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Norman Alexander said:
It's 24-Aug here in Australia now. Was there a memo we missed? Most we saw was Toupee Fiasco being booed at his own rally by his own people. Is that code for something?
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He had the nerve to suggest people get the vaccine. THEY got to him, I guess.
 
PhantomWolf said:
In short answer to your thread title. No. [/thread]

In a slightly longer version. No, it's not. [/thread]

The long version. There is no legal or constitutional mechanism that can allow Trump to become President again before 2025, barring a strange outcome to the 2022 elections.
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2022, GOP majority in the house and senate. Trump is selected by the house to become the Speaker (turns out, you don't need to be a member of the house). Double impeachment. The house is most certainly going to flip, and perhaps the senate, but getting to 60 would be the challenge.

But, yeah, some sort of decree from SCOTUS is pure fantasy. It just doesn't work that way.
 
Leftus said:
He had the nerve to suggest people get the vaccine. THEY got to him, I guess.
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Looks like Alex Jones is turning on Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/alex-jones-turns-trump-maybe-192523184.html

“Shame on you, Trump. Seriously.

“Hey, if you don’t have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that’s okay.

“At least you’re going to get some good Republicans elected, and we like you. But, my God, maybe you’re not that bright. Maybe Trump’s actually a dumbass."
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Leftus said:
2022, GOP majority in the house and senate. Trump is selected by the house to become the Speaker (turns out, you don't need to be a member of the house). Double impeachment. The house is most certainly going to flip, and perhaps the senate, but getting to 60 would be the challenge.

But, yeah, some sort of decree from SCOTUS is pure fantasy. It just doesn't work that way.
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This is the closest thing to a real working possibility that has been promoted anywhere I've seen, although it would require him running and being elected to a seat in the House of Representatives in 22, somehow. I'm sure there's a district someplace that he could set up housekeeping in so he could easily win it, were he truly motivated, but he'd have to start now. I just don't see that happening.
The scary thing is, that it's not only possible (However remotely), it could, conceivably, lead to a second term were he to get reelected in 2024 afterward. The president isn't limited to two terms, they're limited to 10 years in office, at least last I checked, and that has been a while. The last time it could have happened was LBJ, but he chose not to run again.
 
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Mike! said:
This is the closest thing to a real working possibility that has been promoted anywhere I've seen, although it would require him running and being elected to a seat in the House of Representatives in 22, somehow.
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As Leftus noted, the Speaker is not actually required to be a member of the House, although every one so far has been a member.

The Speaker of the House: House Officer, Party Leader, and Representative

An archived copy of a May 2017 report from the Congressional Research Service.
Page 5 of the linked PDF said:
In fact, there is no requirement that the Speaker be a Member of the House.
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The footnote accompanying that statement includes several examples of non-House members receiving votes to become Speaker, although they didn't win in those cases. Colin Powell has received votes to become Speaker on several occasions.
 
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Armitage72 said:
As Leftus noted, the Speaker is not actually required to be a member of the House, although every one so far has been a member.

The Speaker of the House: House Officer, Party Leader, and Representative

An archived copy of a May 2017 report from the Congressional Research Service.



The footnote accompanying that statement includes several examples of non-House members receiving votes to become Speaker, although they didn't win in those cases. Colin Powell has received votes to become Speaker on several occasions.
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Wow, I stand corrected, I was not aware of that. I had assumed it at least required being a member of the House. Just because it's never been done doesn't mean it can't be done.
 
Leftus said:
2022, GOP majority in the house and senate. Trump is selected by the house to become the Speaker (turns out, you don't need to be a member of the house). Double impeachment. The house is most certainly going to flip, and perhaps the senate, but getting to 60 would be the challenge.

But, yeah, some sort of decree from SCOTUS is pure fantasy. It just doesn't work that way.
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What do you think I meant by "barring a strange outcome to the 2022 elections"?
 
The Traveler said:
They have not stopped trying to assassinate him.

Seems the forum is unanimous, There is no way.

Seems the u-tube I look at and the u-tube you all see is not the same.
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Where there is your problem right there.... you are mistaking YouTube for a fact-based news source

Pro Tip: Its not!
 
PhantomWolf said:
What do you think I meant by "barring a strange outcome to the 2022 elections"?
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The GOP taking both the house (flip 10 seats) and the Senate (to get a impeachable amount, 10 seats) is not strange. People will be taking out their frustrations with this administration in a year or so. They would need an impressive number of home runs to make people forget Afghanistan. And the "social infrastructure" might be, at best, a bunt single.

The hard part is Trump getting elected speaker. I doubt that there are 200 plus GOP Reps still beholden to him. Of course, if the Dems play ball and get Trump in at 2 years +1, say he takes over January 19 2022 he would be barred from running again. 3D chess! Or at 11:59AM January 19th, if you want to cut it close. The Constitution limits it to two years, but any bright counting a partial day would require SCOTUS to settle it.

It's possible, in that it's totally legal, but the chances of it happening? I think my plan to get me into office has a better chance.
 
Leftus said:
The GOP taking both the house (flip 10 seats) and the Senate (to get a impeachable amount, 10 seats) is not strange. People will be taking out their frustrations with this administration in a year or so. They would need an impressive number of home runs to make people forget Afghanistan. And the "social infrastructure" might be, at best, a bunt single.

The hard part is Trump getting elected speaker. I doubt that there are 200 plus GOP Reps still beholden to him. Of course, if the Dems play ball and get Trump in at 2 years +1, say he takes over January 19 2022 he would be barred from running again. 3D chess! Or at 11:59AM January 19th, if you want to cut it close. The Constitution limits it to two years, but any bright counting a partial day would require SCOTUS to settle it.

It's possible, in that it's totally legal, but the chances of it happening? I think my plan to get me into office has a better chance.
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Getting 60 seats in the Senate would be extremely strange given the seats that will be in play. The best I can see the Republicans doing is 54.

As for Afghanistan, when people come to realise it wasn't the mess that the Republicans and media are trying to make it and in fact, Biden and his team got tens of thousands of people out of what could very easily have turned into a blood bath if certain others had been involved, I don't think it's going to help the right at all. Heck, I'd love to see an inquiry just to remind everyone that the reason that the whole thing went to pieces was Trump's deal with the Taliban and that people like Steven Miller were trying to block the evacuation of any US Allies at all. Could also put up all those clips of FOX calling the US's Afghan allies "Terrorists" and bemoaning the US rescuing them, I'm sure that would look wonderful and just so compassionate when compared to the numbers rescued by Biden's team.
 
Leftus said:
Right now, there are 7 layers of management between me and the IRS commishioner. If we operate under the assumption that you take the job of your manager when they leave, I'm right there. From there Yellen has to go. Then it's a pair of Speakers, Sec of State and a VP and P and can you say President Leftus.
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It could happen, but only if they’re all played by Alec Guinness.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Getting 60 seats in the Senate would be extremely strange given the seats that will be in play. The best I can see the Republicans doing is 54.
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I really didn't look at the seats on offer. I probably still won't, since I've already got my own totally unworkable plan to ascend to ruler of the free world.

As for Afghanistan, when people come to realise it wasn't the mess that the Republicans and media are trying to make it and in fact, Biden and his team got tens of thousands of people out of what could very easily have turned into a blood bath if certain others had been involved, I don't think it's going to help the right at all. Heck, I'd love to see an inquiry just to remind everyone that the reason that the whole thing went to pieces was Trump's deal with the Taliban and that people like Steven Miller were trying to block the evacuation of any US Allies at all. Could also put up all those clips of FOX calling the US's Afghan allies "Terrorists" and bemoaning the US rescuing them, I'm sure that would look wonderful and just so compassionate when compared to the numbers rescued by Biden's team.
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One could argue that it is already a blood bath. It could have been worse is not a valid defense. Abandoning actual military hardware is not a sign of a planned military exit. Even in unplanned abandoning exits, we always had plan on at the very least disabling our equipment. Well, it involved some C4, perhaps a claymore or two. Granted I'm sitting a few thousand miles away but I'm sitting here thinking "we couldn't blow all that **** up?"
 
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