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So is this possible

The Traveler said:
Everyone knows that Trump Won and you are all lying through your teeth trying to convince us to not believe our lying eyes.

In fact your reaction has left me in no doubt as to who it is that lacks any form of credibility, but do feel free to carry on and promote yourselves amongst yourselves but don't expect to have any sane person join you.
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Everyone seems not to include the cyber ninja team.

Back to the thread. You bought the farm with 'Trump back in office' by the end of August. You then doubled down with him back by the end of September and struck out again

Please, please come back and make a pratt of yourself for a third time by predicting your pussy grabbing hero will be back in October.
 
The Traveler said:
Everyone knows that Trump Won and you are all lying through your teeth trying to convince us to not believe our lying eyes.

In fact your reaction has left me in no doubt as to who it is that lacks any form of credibility, but do feel free to carry on and promote yourselves amongst yourselves but don't expect to have any sane person join you.
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how do you know?
It's a rare thing for any Republican to win the Popular Vote for anything. For a long time, the GOP has depended on gerrymandering and the EC to get themselves elected.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2016, so why would he win in 2020 when he was lucky to get 40% approval rating in his presidency from any polling outlet?

it is a simple fact that most Americans dislike Trump, including many, many Republicans and Christians.
 
The Traveler said:
Everyone knows that Trump Won and you are all lying through your teeth trying to convince us to not believe our lying eyes.

In fact your reaction has left me in no doubt as to who it is that lacks any form of credibility, but do feel free to carry on and promote yourselves amongst yourselves but don't expect to have any sane person join you.
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No, you are engaged in a witch hunt in an attempt to steal the election and are betraying your country. Why pretend to be an American when you don't share our values?

Even during slavery, Jim Crow, and before women's suffrage, the through line of what it means to be an American is the respect for the rule of law and the outcome of elections. Even though our laws were foundationally flawed for much of our history, we've always had a law that when the election is over, we have a peaceful transfer of power. Even in the Civil War, the worst treason in our history, the enemy never contested the election when they didn't like the results. They recognized the legitimacy of Lincoln and then left the Union. Trump supporters are engaging in a betrayal of the country in a way not even the Confederacy did.
 
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The Traveler said:
Everyone knows that Trump Won and you are all lying through your teeth trying to convince us to not believe our lying eyes.

In fact your reaction has left me in no doubt as to who it is that lacks any form of credibility, but do feel free to carry on and promote yourselves amongst yourselves but don't expect to have any sane person join you.
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After Thanksgiving, when Donnie Depends is still ******** himself in Florida, and Mike Pillow's prognostications have again embarrassed him, please come back and enjoy a little humble pie with your leftovers.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
how do you know?
It's a rare thing for any Republican to win the Popular Vote for anything. For a long time, the GOP has depended on gerrymandering and the EC to get themselves elected.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2016, so why would he win in 2020 when he was lucky to get 40% approval rating in his presidency from any polling outlet?

it is a simple fact that most Americans dislike Trump, including many, many Republicans and Christians.
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You have to pretty much only get your news from your own echo chamber to think Trump even had a chance of winning in 2020. No president has been elected in modern times with such a low, average approval rating. Trump had no popular domestic agenda wins. The tax cut in 2017 was wildly unpopular when people read the fine print. He had no foreign policy wins. What he did do in foreign policy polled REALLY badly. The "wall" was a joke and also didn't poll well.

The less said about Trump's COVID-19 response the better. Pfizer, the first to get a vaccine to EUA wasn't even part of his operation Warp Speed. Astra Zeneca was and we never took it to EUA (though we do buy it to give to other countries). Let's not forget injecting bleach. He was the only president to lose jobs during his term since Hoover.

Let's not forget how far out of step he was after George Floyd. When the country is in flames, polling data clearly suggests the American people prefer you not add gasoline.

So, The Traveler, why are you surprised he lost and why do you think he was likely to win?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Since Rally sizes are the only accurate measure of popularity, why have elections at all?
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So, here's a fun game. The Bank of Oklahoma Center has almost 20,000 seats. That was the venue for Trump's first rally after the start of COVID-19. He's had bigger venues but when he was doing the airport hangars he also had much smaller venues.

Trump did about 40 rallies during the general election. If each venue could hold 20,000 people and he filled all of them (which remember in Oklahoma he got nowhere close), that's still only 800,000 voters. The vast majority of Trump's own voters never attended a rally in during the general election campaign. When you consider Trump tanked in the polls for handling of COVID-19, that seems an odd tradeoff. That's 800,000 people who were going to vote for you anyway in exchange for making millions of people you're not the right guy during a pandemic. An odd calculus.
 
The Traveler said:
Everyone knows that Trump Won and you are all lying through your teeth trying to convince us to not believe our lying eyes.
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You sound like one of those people who insists "everyone knows that my god is the One True God®, and everyone who says otherwise is just lying because they refuse to admit that they're wrong".

In fact your reaction has left me in no doubt as to who it is that lacks any form of credibility, but do feel free to carry on and promote yourselves amongst yourselves but don't expect to have any sane person join you.
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But you'll be back, right?
 
Maybe Trump is back in office, has been so all along and all the so-called evidence that he isn't is elaborate fakery by the terrible lying media we all avidly consume and believe.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Maybe Trump is back in office, has been so all along and all the so-called evidence that he isn't is elaborate fakery by the terrible lying media we all avidly consume and believe.
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Hell, maybe Jesus returned in 2013 and joined the cast of Duck Dynasty, but the fake news generator is just so powerful that nobody noticed.
 
Craig4 said:
So, here's a fun game. The Bank of Oklahoma Center has almost 20,000 seats. That was the venue for Trump's first rally after the start of COVID-19. He's had bigger venues but when he was doing the airport hangars he also had much smaller venues.

Trump did about 40 rallies during the general election. If each venue could hold 20,000 people and he filled all of them (which remember in Oklahoma he got nowhere close), that's still only 800,000 voters. The vast majority of Trump's own voters never attended a rally in during the general election campaign. When you consider Trump tanked in the polls for handling of COVID-19, that seems an odd tradeoff. That's 800,000 people who were going to vote for you anyway in exchange for making millions of people you're not the right guy during a pandemic. An odd calculus.
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With Trump it was more likely counting on his fingers.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Maybe Trump is back in office, has been so all along and all the so-called evidence that he isn't is elaborate fakery by the terrible lying media we all avidly consume and believe.
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Back in April QAnon supporter Lin Wood claimed to have gone to the White House, couldn't find President Biden (with implications that he had secretly died), and instead found Trump working in the Oval Office. As if he had done any work there during his actual term.
 
The Traveler said:
Everyone knows....
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Is that truly the depth and breadth of your argument?

If 'everyone knows' then there should be some evidence in support of what 'everyone knows'. Since my 'lying eyes' are incapable of spotting such evidence, perhaps you, The Traveler, can point to a few specific examples?
 
The editorial board at the Wall Street Journal had this take on the Arizona audit.

In short - The audit was bollocks and should not be trusted; there are simple benign explanations for 'irregularities' reported; trump is lying and the GOP shouldn't be spending time on his personal madness.

Every audit in every state could arrive at the same conclusion - that there just wasn't any widespread fraud and the election results were correct - and trump would still be screaming 'Rigged' in order to continue fleecing the public.

A better question than "So is this possible?", although the bar is so low on that that Hermes Conrad could not limbo under it, is whether all the people who have contributed to these 'stop the steal' funding swindles are eventually going to get angry about having been lied to as much as they have.
 
TofuFighter said:
Every audit in every state could arrive at the same conclusion - that there just wasn't any widespread fraud and the election results were correct - and trump would still be screaming 'Rigged' in order to continue fleecing the public.
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I wasn't a fan of the Hillary! campaign, but she was right about this - Trump complained that the Iowa primary was rigged, that the general election would be rigged, and even that he was cheated out of an Emmy award for his TV show. It's just years of repetition that elections are rigged if he loses.
 
The Traveler said:
Everyone knows that Trump Won and you are all lying through your teeth trying to convince us to not believe our lying eyes.

In fact your reaction has left me in no doubt as to who it is that lacks any form of credibility, but do feel free to carry on and promote yourselves amongst yourselves but don't expect to have any sane person join you.
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The Supreme Court of the United States, with a 6 to 3 Conservative majority, refused to take up Trump's fraud case AND stated that if they had, Trump would have lost.

Many Federal courts, with Republican-appointed and Trump-appointed judges, ruled that Trump's case was a lost cause.

The Congress of the USA certified that Trump lost the election.

306 State Electors voted for Biden over Trump. These Electors were certified by their States as accurate and true.

Seems the only ones who "knows" that Trump won, are those that deny reality and spit upon our Constitutional electoral process and judicial review system.
 
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Trompf and his faithful few* will easily solve this: They'll move to Avignon and set up a True Presidency, ruling White Christendom from afar, issuing True Bulls and anathemas against Antiprez Biden and the Scarlet** Woman near his throne. (Notice how the media never publish a pic of Biden's bare feet? Cause they're CLOVEN HOOFS! is why!)

Woe betide the followers of the Damnocrats! Soon Donold XXXXV will return in majesty! Majestically Travelling the whole way! Hep!


* A few millions, that is. Billions? I get em confused.
** Not her REAL color, natch, but we gotta cater to the you know who I means.
 
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