So, are black people really more racist than whites?

[LostAngeles]

If we ever meet, the first few beers (or whatever you are drinking) are on me. Too many people forget this.

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Guinness?

DR

If you're buying me drinks, I'll take some of that Guinness you're offering Red there.

 

[chris epic]

that "racism" can merge into "bigotry" or "tribalism" or "favoritism" and doesn't have to be malicious.

I really don't understand this here. Could you explain?

 

[Elind]

I really don't understand this here. Could you explain?

Some of this discussion is about semantics. Some say it's not a racial issue, but some other word like bigotry or tribalism. Some also seem to think that the word "racism" applies only to the highest levels of discrimination based on a concept of genetic superiority.

I'm just saying that regardless, the application of the term seems by some to be inapplicable to black people on some fundamental principle, and on top of that attempting to even suggest that it can be raises hackles of indignation.

I think that attitude is fundamentally patronizing and racist, in itself.

 

[MaGZ]

The problem is Whites don’t have a chance to be racist at the ballot box because there are no candidates that represents White values or White interests.

 

[332nd]

The problem is Whites don’t have a chance to be racist at the ballot box because there are no candidates that represents White values or White interests.

Really? And what are "White values and White interests"?

This should be good.

 

[Puppycow]

The problem is Whites don’t have a chance to be racist at the ballot box because there are no candidates that represents White values or White interests.

Except for Ron Paul.

 

[Elind]

Really? And what are "White values and White interests"?

This should be good.

This should be good, indeed. Particularly since I believe you suggested there were black interests, without suggesting what they were.

 

[quixotecoyote]

Really? And what are "White values and White interests"?

This should be good.

Ummm. You just asked a white supremacist neo-nazi. You're going to find he has an answer.

 

[332nd]

This should be good, indeed. Particularly since I believe you suggested there were black interests, without suggesting what they were.

I don't think I did unless I worded something poorly.

Ummm. You just asked a white supremacist neo-nazi. You're going to find he has an answer.

Oh I know. It's just that I find sport in toying with the neo Nazis ever since I found out that my fiancee is not only White but related to Adolph Eichmann.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Yes, it's a valid word, with very close connections to racism worldwide.

No, not racism, racialism and nationalism, and group identity. That does not always evolve into racism, but it can. Being for "we, us" does not necessitate that "you, they" are racially inferior, merely not preferred.

There is a difference, however subtle. I'll point to the sectarian splits in Iraq as non racial, tribal voting/politics in action, or the Christian/Islamic split in Nigeria as other tribal behavior.

Go back a few years and you see Scottish clans bickering over political power. Not racist, tribal, or when scaled up, nationalistic.

DR

 

[Elind]

No, not racism, racialism and nationalism, and group identity. That does not always evolve into racism, but it can. Being for "we, us" does not necessitate that "you, they" are racially inferior, merely not preferred.

There is a difference, however subtle. I'll point to the sectarian splits in Iraq as non racial, tribal voting/politics in action, or the Christian/Islamic split in Nigeria as other tribal behavior.

Go back a few years and you see Scottish clans bickering over political power. Not racist, tribal, or when scaled up, nationalistic.

DR

I have no argument with that, on the basis that "racism" always has to involve "superiority or inferiority".

Perhaps that is historically true, but not in everyday usage. It's good enough to call a white person racist simply for saying he/she will always vote or give some kind of preference to a white over a black, but it seems the reverse labeling is not allowed. I think it should be, and not because I'm a racist (just an equal opportunity one, perhaps?)

 

[Corsair 115]

Really? And what are "White values and White interests"?

This should be good.

It'll be, uh, interesting. But my first questions would've been more along this lines of what is white exactly? How is whiteness measured?

 

[Elind]

It'll be, uh, interesting. But my first questions would've been more along this lines of what is white exactly? How is whiteness measured?

In this context, by how racist they are??

 

[Dr Adequate]

I'd just like to ask: is there anyone at all reading this thread who thinks that Elind's reasoning stands up?

Apart from Elind, of course.

Anyone?

* sound of crickets heard *