SNL Skit On Libs Herb & Marion Sandler Is Yanked. Libs Too Thin Skinned For Parody?

[qwints]

1. Censorship is bad.
2. Comedy is good.

That's my position. No matter why they changed it, weakening a joke for political or legal purposes is lame. But Cicero I must say you are taking a comedy television show which is at least a decade past any relevance way too seriously. And claiming "liberals" are too thin skinned is an obvious logical fallacy.

 

[Ausmerican]

Sure is. Conan's show is taped, and yet NBC legal had no problem with it and let it air. The always mercurial Alec Baldwin apologized in a letter to Hyde as was his decision. Hyde did not ask for any redress. Whether his apology was in earnest, he did get his opinions out on on Late Night with Conan O'Brien. NBC did not make any official apology.

So how is promising never to play it again for the Baldwin clip any different than not putting it on the website for further viewing for this one?

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Last year Bill Maher expressed dissatisfaction over the failed assassination of Cheney and he is still on the air. On the panel were Barney Frank and Joe Scarborough.

Bill Maher isn't on the air. He's on cable, right?

***.."I’m just saying if he (Cheney) did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact."..*** B.M.

This wasn't even satire. I guess HBO has different standards then NBC? Hard to believe.

Believe it. Ask the FCC about the difference between networks that broadcast over the public airwaves (that is, "on the air") and those that don't.

 

[Cicero]

1. Censorship is bad.
2. Comedy is good.

That's my position. No matter why they changed it, weakening a joke for political or legal purposes is lame. But Cicero I must say you are taking a comedy television show which is at least a decade past any relevance way too seriously. And claiming "liberals" are too thin skinned is an obvious logical fallacy.

Is SNL even two decades past their prime? Of course. But in order to pump fresh blood through their hardened arteries they needed more than just Fey feigning Palin. Just when SNL goes after the crooks on the political left, NBC, after Sandler's AP press conference, takes out the pruning sheers to the skit for youtube replay.

Whenever SNL pummels a conservative, there is no mealy mouth complaints from the object of their satire. This brings it back to the original point of the thread. Why are these liberals outraged for being ridiculed when they are ripe for the picking?

 

[Dr Adequate]

Why is this in the election subforum?

 

[MattusMaximus]

I guess because it buys into some kind of liberal CT thingy

 

[Meadmaker]

Putting "people who should be shot" is going way, way too far. I can't support this one at all. It's good they decided not to run with it.

I agree.

On the other hand, if they had said, "People who should be tarred and feathered" or "People who should be drowned in a bog", I think that would have been ok.

Other than that, great skit.

ETA: And whoever demanded the censorship, I would like to thank them. Without your efforts, I almost certainly would have never seen the skit.

 

[Pookster]

Why is this in the election subforum?

I was wondering the same.

 

[GreyICE]

Well their reason for changing it is absurd - if you can't say a few people are going to be the first against the wall, then the concept of free speech really is dead.

 

[qwints]

Whenever SNL pummels a conservative, there is no mealy mouth complaints from the object of their satire.

Ok. Sure. *Walks away slowly*

 

[Cleon]

Whenever SNL pummels a conservative, there is no mealy mouth complaints from the object of their satire.

Right, instead they have a surrogate do it.

 

[Cicero]

Right, instead they have a surrogate do it.

Of course Fey's characterization of Palin is sexist. That's part of the humor. Did NBC tell SNL to halt Fey's characterization because a McCain surrogate mentioned the obvious?

 

[Cicero]

Original version:

http://www.snlbailout.cx/


Edited version:

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/c-span-bailout/727521/

NBC not only removed the "people who should be shot" chyron on-screen text, but Herb Sandler's line:

"Thank you Congressman Frank as well as many Republicans for helping block congressional oversight of our corrupt activities."

Does that line also incite viewers to violence?

 

[GreyICE]

NBC not only removed the "people who should be shot" chyron on-screen text, but Herb Sandler's line:

"Thank you Congressman Frank as well as many Republicans for helping block congressional oversight of our corrupt activities."

Does that line also incite viewers to violence?

The sandlers fund Moveon.org, ACORN, Center for American Progress, Human Rights Watch, etc. I wonder why SNL caved in to the Sandlers request to edit out the good stuff?

Goalposts are in a rocket car again I see.

 

[Cleon]

Goalposts are in a rocket car again I see.

More like a Tilt-a-Whirl.

 

[Cicero]

Goalposts are in a rocket car again I see.

Rocket car? And risk contributing to man made global warming. Perish the thought.

 

[Ausmerican]

Of course Fey's characterization of Palin is sexist. That's part of the humor.

Rubbish. It would be sexist if a woman was being put down or made fun of simply because she was a woman. It would be sexist if all women were being put down as being morons. But to put A woman down for being a moron is not sexism. Moronism maybe.

 

[Cicero]

Rubbish. It would be sexist if a woman was being put down or made fun of simply because she was a woman. It would be sexist if all women were being put down as being morons. But to put A woman down for being a moron is not sexism. Moronism maybe.

You seem to be channeling Naomi Wolf. She calls Palin Frankenbarbie. That is putting down Palin for her sex. SNL shows Palin playing the flute because it is a reference to her beauty pageant days. The fact that liberal "feminists" put down only conservative women is indicative that in their world, only liberal women need apply.

Palin was put down by the liberal media as soon as McCain named her to the ticket. Before Palin spoke one word, she was dismissed as "Hillary lite."

 

[Ausmerican]

You seem to be channeling Naomi Wolf. She calls Palin Frankenbarbie. That is putting down Palin for her sex.

Not the topic under discussion unless Wolf is a comedienne and/or on SNL these days.

SNL shows Palin playing the flute because it is a reference to her beauty pageant days.

Why yes, yes they do. Because she did in fact play the flute during her pageant days. Is this sexist? Of course not. Any more than Showing George W Bush eating a pretzel or playing golf, both of which we know he has done, would be sexist. Or do only women, and all women at that, play the flute?

The fact that liberal "feminists" put down only conservative women is indicative that in their world, only liberal women need apply.

Really? I seem to remember SNL sending up both Janet Reno and Madelaine Albright during the Clinton years. And at least they have an attractive woman playing Palin. Will Ferrell played Reno. I am sure the sexism of that also outraged you.

Palin was put down by the liberal media as soon as McCain named her to the ticket. Before Palin spoke one word, she was dismissed as "Hillary lite."

Actually pretty much ALL the media as much as said she was picked to try and pick up Hillary voters. I know she is getting a hard time from the far left media these days; Kristol, Brooks, Will, etc.

 

[GreyICE]

Rocket car? And risk contributing to man made global warming. Perish the thought.

Which is obviously a Conspiracy perpetrated by the Liberal Media and Shadowy Communist Figures who seek to Control Our Government by Censoring the Press and Taking Over America.