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Snake found in broccoli

Small side question; anybody else think Claus is getting worse recently? I mean, he's always been one to push for an argument, and I respect that, however his discussions are becoming more and more pointless as time goes on. This 'a leg is not a leg' thing, the alligator nonsense... I recently had a discussion on heroin in which his responses were, well, less than I'd expect from somebody who would explore the issue with a balanced view of the evidence.

I'm not asking this as an attack on the guy (I've always personally liked Claus), but rather it's only struck me recently just how bad his arguments are getting. Maybe he needs a holiday?

Athon
 
Oooooh, zombie thread! I'd forgotten how much fun this one was.

And just to complete the fun, remember the Larsen List?

Rolfe said:
  1. Claus posted:Claus, please give the name and publication details of the dictionary you were using to support the statement "all are allowed by the dictionary". Please also quote in full the entry or entries you were relying on.
  2. Please explain how any answer to that question could have been used to illuminate the matter of whether or not the brille of a snake may be classified as eyelids.
  3. Do we (that is us human beings, for the avoidance of doubt) refer to our eyelids as brille? If not, why not?
  4. Why were you so adamant that Wikipedia was a reliable reference for the use of the word "eyelid" in connection to the brille, rather than (for example) Webster's Dictionary? Especially in view of the numerous other occasions you have derided other posters for relying on Wikipedia as a source, while you have previously recommended Webster's as reliable? (See Mahatma Kane Jeeves' language award nominated post presenting the evidence for this is excruciating detail.)
All right, I think that's enough.

Claus may see this as trivial. However, he must realise that it's not the petty semantics that are the issue, but the matter of someone who chooses to hound and badger other posters for allegedly running away from questions they may not want to answer, running away himself and giving grounds for accusations of hypocrisy. The questions may be trivial, but they are not difficult.

Oh, and Claus, be advised that "I see. A leg is not a leg. Alice in Wonderland" and variations thereof is not an adequate response, and every repetition of such will be seen as adding further to the impression of evasion and hypocrisy.
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Ah, those were the days!

Rolfe.
 
I have it on somewhat good authority that snakes can survive a long time at low temperature and in sealed bags, and at least in the experience of the guy who told me the story, have sometimes caused trouble that way. The guy was (and is) an exotic meat dealer and related that his company had recieved a shipment of rattlesnakes that turned out to be alive when they opened the bags. They tried to kill them by putting the bags in cold storage, and thought they'd succeeded, only to find out that not only did being in a sealed bag not kill rattlesnakes, putting them in the fridge just made them ACT dead until they warmed up. Apparently much fun was had by all. The fella who told me the story was a complete bastard, and ends up in the news now and then for being a complete bastard when it comes to ethical behavior in the meat industry, but I believe him; I heard the story a couple of times and he's been quite consistant. At one time he'd posted it on his company's website too, but I can't seem to find it. In any case, this one's plausible to me.
 
Crap. I just participated in an act of necromancy. I feel all dirty and in need of a shower and a hug.
 
I will end the argument

Snakes do not have eyelids, or nictitating membranes, or scales over their eyes.

They have a very thin layer of skin over their eyes, which peels off each time it sheds. It is often called an eyecap. You can see the eye cap coming off in one piece with the shed skin.
See link for a photo of a shed eyecap.

http://exoticpets.about.com/od/snakes/qt/snakeshsigns.htm
 
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