Merged Skeptics vs. Knowers/Believers

King of the Americas said:
I don't get 'skepticism'...

I really don't get how you can disregard your senses, memories, and others' anecdotes, and remain alive...

We NEED information about our world, and we NEED to be able to trust our senses, our memories, and reports of others to navigate this world.

Refusing to do so is well beyond foolish.
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No. Refusing to do so when they are backed up by other evidence is beyond foolish. If we are standing in a road and can sense cars getting nearer, we know that we need to move, because we know that getting hit by a car can kill us. We know that cars drive on roads. We know that it's likely that we'll get hit if we don't move.

We are not saying that your senses are always untrustworthy. We are saying that your senses are not perfect, as is your memory. And we are also saying that, even if your memory and perception are one hundred percent correct, your intraterrestrial idea is still entirely unsupported.

Try reading for comprehension and responding to what we've said rather than repeating your objections to already-refuted straw men.
 
Pure Argent said:
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We are not saying that your senses are always untrustworthy. We are saying that your senses are not perfect, as is your memory. And we are also saying that, even if your memory and perception are one hundred percent correct, your intraterrestrial idea is still entirely unsupported.

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What in this world, appears as "airborn star-like objects that make right angle turns while maintaining a constant speed, and can meld together with other similar objects to make 4-fold larger versions of themselves"...?

If you can produce anything 'Terrestrial' with these qualities/capabilities, I'll dispense with the "Extra" tag.
 
King of the Americas said:
What in this world, appears as "airborn star-like objects that make right angle turns while maintaining a constant speed, and can meld together with other similar objects to make 4-fold larger versions of themselves"...?

If you can produce anything 'Terrestrial' with these qualities/capabilities, I'll dispense with the "Extra" tag.
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Spotlights. Aircraft. Geese. Hallucinations. Fireflies. Headlights. Emergency flashers. Fire. Low-flying aircraft. Clouds. Laser pointer. Stars. Meteor Shower. Blimps.

Or, more likely, a combination of any / all of the above. Not all of those are even "terrestial," (of this world) and not all are "human" so not I'm not sure why you keep mis-using quotes about such things. It's a red herring.

How did you eliminate multiple sources for what you saw - an interesting looking cloud, coupled with something else?
 
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carlitos said:
Spotlights. Aircraft. Geese. Hallucinations. Fireflies. Headlights. Emergency flashers. Fire. Low-flying aircraft. Clouds. Laser pointer. Stars. Meteor Shower. Blimps.

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I've seen various examples of all of the above, sans hallucinations.

None of which come close to resembling what I saw.
 
King of the Americas said:
I've seen various examples of all of the above, sans hallucinations.

None of which come close to resembling what I saw.
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Have you seen examples of all of the above through the windscreen of your car with the exact same viewing conditions as when you witnessed your star like objects?
 
What kind of car were you driving? (bear with me, I have a reason for asking, and it's nothing to do with your memory; I promise it's not a memory 'gotcha' thing)
 
King of the Americas said:
I've seen various examples of all of the above, sans hallucinations.

None of which come close to resembling what I saw.
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So without having knowingly seen hallucinations, you're going to write them off as a possibility. Within a few hours of your hallucination did you have a complete medical exam including a toxicology workup? Seriously. If you didn't, then hallucinations are at least as good an explanation as many, better than some. And since we know hallucinations are a common, mundane occurrence, it is a far better, more intelligent, more rational explanation than intraterrestrial UFOliens.
 
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