Six Reason to Question Vaccinations

The word växer is real.

And VAXers are also real.

There is a vaxer.net

and Vaxer is also the name of a machine.

But antivaxer is a made up word, that isn't accepted as real. I know, I know, some people think they can make up words and everybody will just accept it. Language doesn't work that way, at least not in educated circles.

If you do want to make up a word, it might be best to check first and make sure it doesn't conflict with existing ones.
 
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I know, I know, some people think they can make up words and everybody will just accept it. Language doesn't work that way, at least not in educated circles.
Absolutely. Educated people limit themselves to words found in the dictionary, because they recognize the dictionary to be the only authoritative source on the proper spelling, meaning, and use of the words in the language, its entries having been meticulously compiled from... uh... wait... where did the words originally come from again?
 
Don't be dumb. New words are created and added all the time, especially in English.

But this one doesn't even show up on
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=antivaxers
making it so far off the map it isn't even close to being a valid word, plus the word Vaxer already has meanings, it is a real word, so anti-vaxer, if it was accepted, already would have a meaning, or several. All of them pretty dumb.

See? It isn't that somebody made up a word, but that they did such a terrible job of it.
 
See? It isn't that somebody made up a word, but that they did such a terrible job of it.

I know what he meant by it though. Isn't that one of the main requirements?

And not to rain on anyone's parade (sorry JJM), but googling shows that it predates JJM's use here. At this point, it looks like you'll have to take it up with the Committee if you want your complaint to be heard.

Linda
 
What is wrong with the easy to understand and scientific term that Doctors use?

"anti-vaccine crackpot"
 
What is wrong with the easy to understand and scientific term that Doctors use?

"anti-vaccine crackpot"
Yes.[/derail]

So, have we all concluded that vaccination is more beneficial than harmful?
 
I'm amazed particle or theoretical physicists haven't coined vaxer and antivaxer long ago.

I predict it will be discovered a string is made up of a combination of lots of uppity cyan vaxers and a few loopy magenta antivaxers.

Remember kids: you heard it here first.;)
 
Yes.[/derail]

So, have we all concluded that vaccination is more beneficial than harmful?

In general and given infinite resources, yes. When spending on other things has to be cut-back to provide mass vaccination against rare but serious, or common but mild diseases, I think the benefit and harm are finely balanced.
 
In general and given infinite resources, yes. When spending on other things has to be cut-back to provide mass vaccination against rare but serious, or common but mild diseases, I think the benefit and harm are finely balanced.
I call pussyfooting. (For non-native English speakers, Ivor is not directly making any claims.)

Nonetheless, when it comes to risk/benefit analysis in health-care, I stick with the health professionals. The race is not always won by the swiftest; but that is the way to bet.

I do not know how educated you are about vaccination; that does not matter. Expert opinions dispute your notions. Of course, consensus does not mean correctness. You should submit your ideas to a refereed journal; that is the beginning of any scientific odyssey today.

Simple, repetitious argument (here) is spinning your wheels and wasting your gas. I admire the people with the stamina to respond to each of your spurious notions. Perhaps I can look forward to your publications on the topic.
 
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I blame the software for multiple posts.
 
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I call pussyfooting. (For non-native English speakers, Ivor is not directly making any claims.)

Nonetheless, when it comes to risk/benefit analysis in health-care, I stick with the health professionals. The race is not always won by the swiftest; but that is the way to bet.

I do not know how educated you are about vaccination; that does not matter. Expert opinions dispute your notions. Of course, consensus does not mean correctness. You should submit your ideas to a refereed journal; that is the beginning of any scientific odyssey today.

Simple, repetitious argument (here) is spinning your wheels and wasting your gas. I admire the people with the stamina to respond to each of your spurious notions. Perhaps I can look forward to your publications on the topic.

Please JJM, read these and LEARN something about what I'm talking about before slagging me off for saying it. My "notions" are not spurious, they are economic (and engineering) reality.
 
Please JJM, read these and LEARN something about what I'm talking about before slagging me off for saying it. My "notions" are not spurious, they are economic (and engineering) reality.
No, I await your publication in medical literature. It is a tough standard; but it is the standard. I don't make the rules; but I know why they exist and are worth following.
 
No, I await your publication in medical literature. It is a tough standard; but it is the standard. I don't make the rules; but I know why they exist and are worth following.

I have provided a link to allow you to educate yourself and you refuse to read it. Perhaps you are the kind of person who needs to be spoon fed knowledge?

http://www.ohe.org/page/knowledge/schools/hcproblems/tradeoffs.cfm

iv. Trade-offs

Allocation of health care
Given scarcity, what we need is an allocation or decision making system to determine how much of which kinds of health care is provided. There are three possibilities: the free market; the command system; and the mixed system.

The free market would allocate health care resources according to consumers' purchasing behaviour, while the command model would use planning to allocate health care according to some pre- determined criterion such as 'need.' The mixed system would combine parts of the free market with elements of the command model.

Efficiency
How can society decide which of these systems is most suitable in any given case? There are two criteria that economists use to assess the performance of an allocation system. The first is efficiency: does the system produce an allocation which is Pareto efficient (and thus on the economy's PPF). If the allocation is efficient then the economy is producing exactly the quantity and type of health care that society wants (allocative efficiency) and it is producing that health care for the lowest possible cost (productive efficiency).

Equity
The second criterion is equity: does the system produce an allocation which meets society's requirement for justice? Clearly, this is a normative issue: the decision made depends upon people's values. However, it is a very important consideration for many people when they consider the allocation of health care. It is possible to argue, for instance, that notions of social justice were the single most important influence on the setting up of the National Health Service in the UK.

Equity is a difficult concept to analyse but it helps if we differentiate between horizontal and vertical equity. Horizontal equity is concerned with the equal treatment of equal need. This means that to be horizontally equitable, the health care allocation system must treat two individuals with the same complaint in an identical way. Vertical equity, on the other hand, is concerned with the extent to which individuals who are unequal should be treated differently. In health care it can be reflected by the aim of unequal treatment for unequal need, i.e. more treatment for those with serious conditions than for those with trivial complaints, or by basing the financing of health care on ability to pay e.g. progressive income tax.
 
I have provided a link to allow you to educate yourself and you refuse to read it. Perhaps you are the kind of person who needs to be spoon fed knowledge?
Why not simply submit this to a medical journal? Do I have to do all your thinking for you?
 
Does this imply an increased effectiveness if you get the vaccine several years in a row?
This year's vaccine has 2 strains from last years vaccine and one new one. So there is a booster element in getting two doses. It varies from year to year.
 
The word you've used isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again.
Suggestions for antivaxers:

1. antivirals
2. antivirus
3. antiviral
4. antipress
5. antefixes
6. anteaters
7. antifreeze
8. alienators
9. interacts
10. antiviolence
11. antiallergy
12. antithesis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=antivaxers&go=Go
No page with that title exists.

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I'm not sure what you are on about here, robinson, but a Google search for "antivaxer" gets 72 hits.
 
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