Simple Challenge For Bigfoot Supporters

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Even with just still photos, you can see that some of the vintage gorilla suits in this thread have ridiculously long arms.
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WOW! Can you explain the significance of that point?
 
SweatyYeti said:
Hitch wrote:


Maybe you don't....but I do! :D



You're right, Hitch.

Claiming it doesn't make it so.

Showing it does.......
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I don't see a finger. There does seem to be some flexation of the hand, but I can't tell from those two frames whether there are any fingers or not. It could be a flat paddle from all that shows.
 
Hitch wrote:
It addresses the claim that Patty could not be a guy in a suit because her arms are too long.
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I never said it's "because her arms are too long".

Here is what I wrote:
His arms are shorter than Patty's arms, in proportion to the body.
And since we can clearly see Patty's fingers bending in the film.....they can't be Bob's fingers! :)
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The extra-long arms....TOGETHER with the fingers bending (like REAL fingers do) makes it impossible for those fingers to be Bob's fingers.
 
Hitch wrote:
I don't see a finger.
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Hmmm.....this is a true predicament. They LOOK like fingers....but maybe they're not. They could be hot dogs. :p

There does seem to be some flexation of the hand, but I can't tell from those two frames whether there are any fingers or not. It could be a flat paddle from all that shows.
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I don't want to be pushy, Mr. Hitch.....but it's o.k. if you say "there is" some flexation of the hand....you can trust your eyes.
Why not take that leap of "thinking"....and just say it....."there is some bending". The more you say it....the easier it'll become.
 

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SweatyYeti said:
Hitch wrote:



Hmmm.....this is a true predicament. They LOOK like fingers....but maybe they're not. They could be hot dogs. :p


I don't want to be pushy, Mr. Hitch.....but it's o.k. if you say "there is" some flexation of the hand....you can trust your eyes.
Why not take that leap of "thinking"....and just say it....."there is some bending". The more you say it....the easier it'll become.
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I guess you're truly incapable of seeing anything other than what you wish to be true.

There probably are fingers there. They might even move. That does nothing to eliminate the possibility of it being a man in a suit, and it doesn't show the detail you wish was there to see. Let alone "clearly."

Whether you believe it or not, it's a simple matter to make a hand appear to flex. The technology was available in any toy store in 1967.
 
That could simply be blobs of color merging into and out of the background colors, appearing, when blinked back and forth, a bit like a hand curving.

Keep in mind how tiny these hands are on the original film. Patty herself is well under 2mm tall in the frame.

Don't be fooled by the blobs of colors from the blowups and the low resolution.

Notice how we almost completely lose the left hand in the blobs of blown up colors at times.


How many frames are between those two frames, Sweaty?
 
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Hitch wrote:
There probably are fingers there. They might even move.
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Is your real name "Einstein"?? :D

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Hitch wrote:
I guess you're truly incapable of seeing anything other than what you wish to be true.
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I'm 100% sure you're having trouble seeing very clear movement in a 2-frame animation.

I recommend starting over from scratch, Hitch...with Sesame Street....:)
 
This was always one of my favorite little puzzles from Sesame Street...
Sing along if you like...

"One of these frames is NOT like the other...:rolleyes:

Two of these frames are kinda the same....

Two of these frames BELONG TOGETHER....

Can you guess which ones.....before my song is done?!" :p

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Go for it...skeptics!!! :D
 
LTC8K6 wrote:
Keep in mind how tiny these hands are on the original film.

Don't be fooled by the blobs of colors from the blowups and the low resolution.
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Also keep in mind how clearly different in shape the fingers are in those two frames.

Tomorrow we'll be learning the meanings of the words "same" and "different"....so don't forget to watch! ;)
 
LTC8K6 wrote:
The rubber fingers bumping into the leg and bending, you mean?
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and LTC also wrote:
That could simply be blobs of color merging into and out of the background colors, appearing, when blinked back and forth, a bit like a hand curving.
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Hey, LTC.....which is it.....rubber fingers bending...or blobs of color which only coincidentally look like fingers?

Do you know what you're talking about?
 
LTC8K6 wrote:
I see Patty's calf hit her rubber fingers and bend them.
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A few minutes ago you warned they were only "blobs of color".

Can you explain what happened?

The reason why the finger bending is NOT caused by rubbing against the side of Patty's leg is simply because the fingers curl upward, and the hand does not twist backwards.

But don't let those little details stand in the way of your belief, LTC.....believe what you want to believe.
 
Yeah, which is it? I certainly don't have to explain which it might be. Why would I fall for that question, Sweaty?

It is, as always, up to the person who makes the absolute claim to back said claim up. I'm here to offer possible alternatives to the claim, not to explain your claim to you.

Of course, you likely will not say exactly what your claim is regarding this "manipumation", and these frames, so it'll be a little difficult, but I'm used to that.

It may be that with this costume, the fingers bend a little with certain arm-swings due to the design of the costume. A strap may occasionally snag inside and pull on the hand/arm little.

This may be why the left hand disappears when the left arm is put so far forward, for example.

Imagine a kid with his mittens attached to him by a string through his coat sleeves so he can't lose 'em. Not exactly what I'm talking about regarding costumes, but it gives the idea.
 
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