Silverstein and WTC insurance money

[Thunder]

So, once again, my silly sister is going a wee-bit Truther.

She thinks Silverstein's $7 billion insurance policy on the WTC, just a few months before 9-11, is evidence of an "inside job", and that Silverstein got off like a bandit with all the insurance money and Liberty Bonds.

from what I have read, Silverstein's insurers will give him $4.6 billion for the WTC.

subtract $102 million a year in rent for 9 years, and that means he has gotten about $3.6 billion in free money to build the new buildings.

what are the total costs of the new buildings, MINUS all the insurance money.......MINUS Silverstein's lost revenue from the WTC over the last 9 years?

 

[Arus808]

Yup and he still has to rebuild the missing buildings. 1 building down, 6 to go. All losing 100 million in rent each year that no building exists (on top of property tax and other insurance premiums).

 

[Thunder]

Yup and he still has to rebuild the missing buildings. 1 building down, 6 to go. All losing 100 million in rent each year that no building exists (on top of property tax and other insurance premiums).

yeah, but what are Silverstein's total costs, compared to his total insurance money/federal grants...etc etc?

i am trying to prove to my sister that Silverstein did not make out like a bandit, with precise numbers.

 

[Oystein]

Ask RedIbis. He claimed, and AFAIK never retraced, that Silverstein made out like a bandit.
He surely has some evidence for that claim.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Send her here if she wants the facts and numbers.

 

[Miragememories]

Ask RedIbis. He claimed, and AFAIK never retraced, that Silverstein made out like a bandit.
He surely has some evidence for that claim.

It was nice to see your adult side over at Loose Change.

Keep it up and you will be a welcome member.

MM

 

[Thunder]

Send her here if she wants the facts and numbers.

thank u very very much.



now, lets see if my sister has the intellectual honesty to read it.

i think she will, as she is no sheep.

 

[Thunder]

my sister says its good info, but the sources are not "legit".

here is my response:

"eh...the sources for the info in the article are the New York Times, NY1, Time Magazine, Forbes, and other reliable papers. How are these sources not credible? Are they less credible than the snake-oil salemen demagogues, who peddle 9-11 conspiracy theories? These people prey off the emotionally trouble, intellectually insecure, and political sheep. They spread lies, fear, and paranoia to anyone who will buy into their crap, so they can sell thousands of DVDs. They disregard hundreds of engineers, architects, and other scientists who KNOW what they are talking about, because the science does not fit their pre-conceived notions of what took place that day.

I have been researching and learning about this stuff since 2005.

Come on XXXXXXX, use your noggin. Don't fall into their pathetic trap.



And by the way, these folks ALSO believe that global warming is a hoax, created by Communists who seek to destroy and enslave the USA. These are not folks from which you can learn anything."

 

[zorro99]

PressTV - 9/11 could be insurance fraud as “trial” of conspiring duo begins in NY today

Is this the world's worst case of insurance fraud...ever?

July 15, 2013

That's what many are saying, as the world's biggest real-estate swindler and the world's most corrupt judge meet in a Manhattan courtroom on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. At issue: billions of dollars in loot from the demolition of the World Trade Center complex on September 11th, 2001.

World Trade Center owner Larry Silverstein - who confessed on national television to “pulling” World Trade Center Building 7 - will appear in the courtroom of Judge Alvin Hellerstein at 500 Pearl St. in New York City. The non-jury trial, which is expected to last three days, will decide whether Silverstein is entitled to recover $3.5 billion from airlines and airport-related companies, in addition to the $4.9 billion he has already received for his “losses” on September 11th.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/07/15/313839/911-incident-insurance-fraud/

 

[zorro99]

Judge rules against WTC owners seeking payouts from airline insurers

July 24, 2013

The owners of World Trade Center Properties and their affiliates cannot potentially recover billions of dollars from airlines over the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the twin towers in New York City, according to a federal court ruling.

http://ifawebnews.com/2013/07/24/ju...owners-seeking-payouts-from-airline-insurers/

 

[Kid Eager]

PressTV - 9/11 could be insurance fraud as “trial” of conspiring duo begins in NY today

Is this the world's worst case of insurance fraud...ever?

July 15, 2013

That's what many are saying, as the world's biggest real-estate swindler and the world's most corrupt judge meet in a Manhattan courtroom on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. At issue: billions of dollars in loot from the demolition of the World Trade Center complex on September 11th, 2001.

World Trade Center owner Larry Silverstein - who confessed on national television to “pulling” World Trade Center Building 7 - will appear in the courtroom of Judge Alvin Hellerstein at 500 Pearl St. in New York City. The non-jury trial, which is expected to last three days, will decide whether Silverstein is entitled to recover $3.5 billion from airlines and airport-related companies, in addition to the $4.9 billion he has already received for his “losses” on September 11th.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/07/15/313839/911-incident-insurance-fraud/

And if the referenced article doesn't generate enough eye-rolling at the conspicuous absence of stuff like evidence and facts, the ignorance of the mouth-breathing illiterati in the comments should be sufficient to tear your eyes adrift of the optic nerves and have them orbit your head at a distance of a metre for at least a week.

What a bunch of maroons.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Judge rules against WTC owners seeking payouts from airline insurers

July 24, 2013

The owners of World Trade Center Properties and their affiliates cannot potentially recover billions of dollars from airlines over the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the twin towers in New York City, according to a federal court ruling.

http://ifawebnews.com/2013/07/24/ju...owners-seeking-payouts-from-airline-insurers/

Okay, this link is safer.

And why should this be a surprise? In America, you name everyone involved in any incident in a lawsuit. If it doesn't stick to the perp, it might stick to the property owner, the bank, the city in which the incident happened, etc... This seems a bit absurd to me, but I don't see anything that has anything to do with the events of 9/11 in the decision or the filing. Just typical American corporate avarice. Something bad happened, I should be recompensed. I'm not sure if anyone other than Cantor-Fitzgerald and Silverstein tried the suing the airlines route, but I wouldn't be at all surprised, knowing some of the business persons who were in the WTC complex, to hear that dozens more were waiting in the wings hoping something came of this.

Simple greed. Nothing to do with conspiracy. (If it was a Joo Conspiracy, wouldn't the headline be "Silverstein gets final payment from his plot" and not "Silverstein loses"?)

 

[beachnut]

PressTV - 9/11 could be insurance fraud as “trial” of conspiring duo begins in NY today

Is this the world's worst case of insurance fraud...ever?

July 15, 2013

That's what many are saying, as the world's biggest real-estate swindler and the world's most corrupt judge meet in a Manhattan courtroom on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. At issue: billions of dollars in loot from the demolition of the World Trade Center complex on September 11th, 2001.

World Trade Center owner Larry Silverstein - who confessed on national television to “pulling” World Trade Center Building 7 - will appear in the courtroom of Judge Alvin Hellerstein at 500 Pearl St. in New York City. The non-jury trial, which is expected to last three days, will decide whether Silverstein is entitled to recover $3.5 billion from airlines and airport-related companies, in addition to the $4.9 billion he has already received for his “losses” on September 11th.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/07/15/313839/911-incident-insurance-fraud/

PressTV? lol, do you ever comment on these silly articles?
Wait, did you comment?
How many post and runs does this make?
Larry did not pull WTC 7 down. Where do you find these dumber than dirt articles? Yes, at PressTV.

 

[Dog Town]

What a bunch of maroons.

Yep!

 

[brazenlilraisin]

Larry Silverstein - who confessed on national television to “pulling” World Trade Center Building 7

What mouth-breathing idiocy.

 

[Redwood]

Simple greed. Nothing to do with conspiracy. (If it was a Joo Conspiracy, wouldn't the headline be "Silverstein gets final payment from his plot" and not "Silverstein loses"?)

You're examining this too narrowly. The whole thing was mere shadow-boxing to distract the proles from the truth: 9-11 wasn't merely a Joo Conspiracy, it was just one operation in The Vast Conspiracy Which Controls the Entire World .

Think about it. Over 10 years ago, Silverstein confessed boasted to the entire world to his mass murder/insurance fraud scheme, and yet he's never been charged with any crime; none of the insurers has ever filed a fraud claim against him; not a single one of the thousands of wealthy corporations who suffered major losses that day has ever filed a claim against him. How can this be? Because they are all part of the same Vast Conspiracy!

The real failure of conspiracists isn't their conspiracizing - its their failure to pursue their ideas to the logical conclusion that the Conspiracy controls the entire world, and that Resistance Is Futile. Of all the conspiradroids, the only one to come close to this is Michael Ruppert.

BTW, since this is Kevin Barrett dreck, I've linked it to the Kevin Barrett thread.