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SIEGFRIED VERBEKE, moron

notarized

signature is sufficient.

Beady is absolutely correct, there is nothing to indicate my "take" on this has any validity. I do appreciate the Challenge administrator making it crystal clear who he is dealing with.


For the record, Israel's Holocaust Museum Website (YadVaShem) had over 400,000 visitors in the 24-hours since the victims database was posted. Since Sunday morning, surfers around the world could fill out Pages of Testimony and e-mail them into the center for inclusion. In this manner, Yad Vashem hopes to compile 5-million victims' names.

No, it's not a counter-measure to anything. I am simply one of those who Honor their memory so generations remain aware and never let it happen again.


I will avoid any further mention of this defective Belgian individual and go read about other, more fascinating and inspiring Challenge applicants...
 
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CFLarsen said:
Links?

(Nobody gets off the hook.
You should have just checked the links in the challenge application section, the first one is about the 1 year sentence.

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http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissenters/verbeke.htm

http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/verbeke.html

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/z...101/010111.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/98/07/a...beke200798.html

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw97-8/holland.html
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Carn
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"moron"?

Is this guy really any more of a moron than anyone else who applies for the Challenge?

At least the only person he's willing to harm is himself, and not thousands of people sending him three easy payments of $39.99 each...

Besides, "moron" is highly subjective and unneccessarily pejorative. I much prefer the original "Belgian suicidal".
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Moron is an extremely polite way of referring to this disgusting wretch.

He's not a moron for applying for the challenge, he is a moron for his attitudes towards the holocaust.

His challenge aplication is obviously some twisted way of trying to get more attention for himself and his cause.

I would never dream of encouraging anyone to commit suicide, or wish harm on others. However, that said, when this person does eventually die then, on overall average, the world will become a slightly more pleasant place, and slightly less filled with racism and hatred.
 
Ashles said:
Moron is an extremely polite way of referring to this disgusting wretch.

He's not a moron for applying for the challenge, he is a moron for his attitudes towards the holocaust.
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Well, okay, if that's how you feel. I tend to pity such deluded people (and make no mistake, he is deluded) instead of hate them, but maybe that's just me. At least he's not converting anyone here. I wonder if he does his cause more harm than good by bringing it under this level and quality of scrutiny.
 
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CFLarsen said:
They do? AFAIK, only Germany has laws like that.

Evidence? :)
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From first link posted above:

"A Belgian court sentenced an unrepentant Holocaust denier to a one-year suspended prison term for distributing pamphlets belittling the Nazi genocide against the Jews during World War Two."

That's of course not proof, but at least a indication, that in Belgium telling that Nazi genocide was not that bad, could be enough for being dragged before court.

Carn
 
in a similar vein -----

Speaking about the courtrooms and legal issues of the Holocaust,

Have you read the book "QB VII" ? (Leon Uris)

Worth finding a copy and sitting down for a while.
 
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CFLarsen said:
There's a difference between hate-speech and historical denial.
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True but thats what got Zundel behind bars here after being turfed from the USA. Hopefully that moron will join this moron behind bars in Europe. Our lawmakers classify anti-holocaust as hate propoganda. Whether it's right or wrong is up to the lawyers I suppose.
Apparently (and I don't have the link right now I'm at work) thats the laws they use to get rid of holocaust deniers who actively promote hatred against the vicims of the Holocaust. There were several groups here like the Aryan nation and other white supremacy groups trying to deny it took place that have all been shut down using those laws. AFAIK, nobody has beaten those laws yet. Of course I'm willing to be shown wrong if someone has beaten that law.
 
Oy Vay

Verbeke has written back, sadly. Made me mad, too.

After much consideration (thinking hard about some forum members comments that this moron should be pitied), and after a long chat with Randi about how much money the major Holocaust Deniers make in lecture fees, publishing, membership drives (see www.vho.org), etc...I can find not an ounce of pity for this fellow.

He may not be so much of a deluded moron as he is a morally corrupt businessman. He doesn't care what he does or says, or whom he inflicts emotional injury upon. His public agenda may be a political one, but his personal goals are financial. He's scum.

He's also a businessman, and like all the other scam artists exploiting the ignorant masses, he deserves no pity whatsoever.

Indeed, I strongly believe that he deserves something entirely other.

See his latest letter in the Challenge Applications section.
My reply to him (my FINAL reply) is posted beneath it.

It took a great summoning of fortitude to be an employee of JREF in this letter, and not the angry quasi-intellectual that I really am.
 
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Why your kind of people need laws and jails? Lack of good arguments?
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Yes, good arguments always prevent those who are right from getting hurt.
I'm sure if an old Jewish man met a Neo-Nazi thug in a dark alleyway good argument would prevail.

Everyone, take a short moment out of your day to get down on your knees and pray for thanks, or sit in a moment's thoughtful contemplation (whatever your personal belief system) and be grateful that you are not so consumed with bitterness, hate, anger and mental issues as Siegried Verbeke.

Let us look at what mankind has the capability to be when it goes wrong, and be grateful that, no matter how bad our personal situation may be at the moment, at least we do not have whatever mental demons this man has in his head crawling around in ours.

I stand by the last 2 sentences of my previous post.
 
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