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Sid The Shiv Blumenthal

Tony Stark said:
But you want a guy who was the most famous birther in the world until like two weeks ago to be the actual President.
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The same guy that wants to be bff with Putin, that invited Russia to hack into an American political party, and that is rumoured to be held by the balls by russian oligarchs.

But forget that, some underling from 2008 is the real danger...
 
Megalodon said:
The same guy that wants to be bff with Putin, that invited Russia to hack into an American political party, and that is rumoured to be held by the balls by russian oligarchs.

But forget that, some underling from 2008 is the real danger...
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It's only bad if a Democrat does it.
 
Shalamar said:
It's only bad if a Democrat does it.
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Irony.

You might want to read the thread, we have learned that it is only bad if a Republican does it, because why else would people be so desperate to pollute this thread with b-b-bu-bu-bu-BUT TRUMP?

The topic is the racist, birther scumbag that has been the Clinton's right hand man for the last 25 years.
 
The Big Dog said:
Irony.

You might want to read the thread, we have learned that it is only bad if a Republican does it, because why else would people be so desperate to pollute this thread with b-b-bu-bu-bu-BUT TRUMP?

The topic is the racist, birther scumbag that has been the Clinton's right hand man for the last 25 years.
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Do you really think that lying will make your case stronger?
 
The Big Dog said:
Irony.

You might want to read the thread, we have learned that it is only bad if a Republican does it, because why else would people be so desperate to pollute this thread with b-b-bu-bu-bu-BUT TRUMP?

The topic is the racist, birther scumbag that has been the Clinton's right hand man for the last 25 years.
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So says one guy eight years after the fact.

While there is video proof that the actual Republican nominee was a racist, birther scumbag for years, up until a couple of weeks ago. In fact, that's how he got into Republican politics.
 
The Big Dog said:
Irony.

You might want to read the thread, we have learned that it is only bad if a Republican does it, because why else would people be so desperate to pollute this thread with b-b-bu-bu-bu-BUT TRUMP?

The topic is the racist, birther scumbag that has been the Clinton's right hand man for the last 25 years.
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That's nice. You've also shown that he has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton for her 2016 campaign, and is working for a couple PACs. Something that Hillary Clinton has no control over.

But keep whinging. And oddly, you mentioned B-b-bu-bu-bu-BUT TRUMP. Feeling guilty? Perhaps making fun of Hillarys Pant Suits will make you feel better.
 
Shalamar said:
That's nice. You've also shown that he has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton for her 2016 campaign, and is working for a couple PACs. .
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Oh wait, we give Hillary a pass because her old dear friend is now working with Brock's superpacs who are DIRECTLY coordinating with the campaign?

Lolz, no.
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh wait, we give Hillary a pass because her old dear friend is now working with Brock's superpacs who are DIRECTLY coordinating with the campaign?

Lolz, no.
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GUILT BY ASSOCIATION! Huzzah!

Once again you point out that he's not involved in Hillary Clintons Campaign.
 
Dr. Keith said:
And of those three accounts of those two events only Asher's tweet is quoted as saying Sid said that Obama was born in Kenya.

Luckily the tweet was backed by serious contemporaneous documentation by Asher: he kept Sid's business card! And then kept quiet about it for years.
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Did you find more evidence for this or are we just going to leave the business card as good enough?
 
The Big Dog said:
That is odd, you seem to believe that this thread is limited solely to the birther issue.
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Fair enough, I was just trying to connect the dots . . .

Obviously that is a big issue, but there are tons more!

Like the fact that Hillary's foundation paid him almost $750k of "charity" money for a do nothing "job."

That is big too!

Any comments about that?
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Sounds like a good gig, I'm sure he did his best. Was it illegal for him to take this job or for them to hire him? Why does it bother you? Was he a Cuban entity at the time? Was he a Russian patsy? I mean surely there is something wrong that you are concerned about.
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh wait, we give Hillary a pass because her old dear friend is now working with Brock's superpacs who are DIRECTLY coordinating with the campaign?
Lolz, no.
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You know that would really be a smoking gun if you could prove it. Is Putin holding back the evidence for later in the month?
 
The Big Dog said:
One of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, just like I said. In fact, I did that to point out the irony that horrible person number one was calling out horrible persons 2-4.

Bit surprised that you missed that before posting comments from an unrelated thread.

Now by all means if you want to make the case that Chris lied, I am all ears.

Can you do that, Darat?
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He's your witness, it is up to you to support his credibility.
 
Darat said:
He's your witness, it is up to you to support his credibility.
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Well that presumes an objection to his credibilty, now doesn't it?

Furthermore, the credibilty of an occurence witness, as is the case here,is subject to cross examination and not proper on direct. I would have the opportunity to rehabiltate if necessary.

Do you find the three witnesses, including chris hitchens, who submitted affidavits about sid's slander of lewinsky credible?

Just a yes or no, please.
 
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The Big Dog said:
Well that presumes an objection to his credibilty, now doesn't it?

Furthermore, the credibilty of an occurence witness, as is the case here,is subject to cross examination and not proper on direct. I would have the opportunity to rehabiltate if necessary.

Do you find the three witnesses, including chris hitchens, who submitted affidavits about sid's slander of lewinsky credible?

Just a yes or no, please.
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Since it is yourself that has made claims that he is a liar, that he makes things up and so on it is up to you to establish why in this particular case we should accept his statement as true.
 
Dr. Keith said:
And of those three accounts of those two events only Asher's tweet is quoted as saying Sid said that Obama was born in Kenya.

Luckily the tweet was backed by serious contemporaneous documentation by Asher: he kept Sid's business card! And then kept quiet about it for years.
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Dr. Keith said:
Did you find more evidence for this or are we just going to leave the business card as good enough?
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Man, if only Sid hadn't given Asher his business card there would be no record of what Sid said to Asher.

But that business card is all the contemporaneous evidence we need, it pretty clearly shows exactly what Sid said at the time. Better than any notes, or contemporaneous communications with colleagues. This was all pre text and pre email, so there is no way such records would exist, only handwritten scribbles that would be impossible to authenticate.

Like on 9/11 when all the TV channels were showing the rooftop celebrations by thousands of muslims in NJ, but no one had the technology to record them.

It was different time.
 
Darat said:
Since it is yourself that has made claims that he is a liar, that he makes things up and so on it is up to you to establish why in this particular case we should accept his statement as true.
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what a very disingenuous response.

But as per usual, I will step boldly ahead and ignore the pretense and the gamesmanship and go ahead:

Hitchens is credible in this one case because he is describing a factual occurrence and his statement is consistent with, among others the affidavit submitted by Carol Blue (who was also there) as well as supported by James Warren, of the Chicago Tribune, and Scott Armstrong, the Senate Watergate investigator.

I look forward to an affirmative statement on whether you find Chris Hitchens credible.

/s.m
 
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