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Shutdown 2023

dudalb said:
THat you hate centrists so much tells a lot about you..and it's not good.
So I choose between HItler and Stalin.Nice.
And thanks for proving my point; Hard Core ideolgues of both flavors hate democracy..or redefinde democracy to mean rule by their party.
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Pssst, Hitler appealed to centrists in the 1930s.
 
Donal said:
Pssst, Hitler appealed to centrists in the 1930s.
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scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. Not universally true, but true often enough. history is full of examples of liberals convincing themselves that fascists are the lesser evil.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
you are still laboring under the misapprehension that giving Republicans all they want is a form of compromise.
It is not.

get off your puny horse.
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You have to presume any compromise will mean Democrats signing off on further erosion of our already meager social safety net in this country, which seems an especially bad move considering the current economic precarity.

Childhood poverty doubled as a result of the ending of Covid era benefits programs, for example. Really can't see how Biden being the poverty President is good for his re-election chances

The number of children living in poverty in the United States more than doubled in 2022, according to new figures released by the U.S. Census Bureau on Sept. 12, the biggest increase since it began using its current method to count them. In 2021, 5.2% of children were living in poverty. In 2022 that figure was 12.4%, or about 9 million children. This hike was part of a wider rise in poverty recorded by the Census, some of which can be attributed to inflation. But advocates for children say the leap was particularly stark for kids—and was avoidable.

An uptick in the number of children living in poverty had been widely expected, because of the expiration of the enhanced version of Child Tax Credit program (CTC) that had been instituted in July 2021 as a means of defraying the financial burden that the stay-at-home measures had imposed on parents. The CTC gave parents a historically high yearly tax credit of up to $3,600 per child, depending on age, which was often paid upfront monthly and did not have to be paid back if the parents' tax bill didn't reach a certain amount.
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https://time.com/6313242/child-poverty-rate-2022-census/
 
Let's keep in mind that REPUBLICANS have the Majority in the House. They could pass a budget, if they wanted.
THEY are the ones begging for Democrat votes , because they have too many always-no people in their midst.

And yet, somehow it's the Dems' obligation to cosy up to the people not even the Republicans can compromise with?
 
Hercules56 said:
Meh, scratch a socialist and an authoritarian bleeds.
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Meh, scratch a faux intellectual and a centrist bleeds. And, no, I don't think Stalin was good or even the "lesser of two evils". I oppose authoritarianism in general. I choose to stand on principles rather than some perceived point on an ill suited spectrum.
 
dudalb said:
The GOP is beyond hope;you cannot c ompromise with them, I just don't want the Dems to catch the same disease.
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You mean getting their way and passing their agenda? That would be awful.

That some of the progressive wing of the Democrats seem to have a huge dislike for moderates is not a good sign.
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Of course, it isn't at all mutual and certainly not in anyway on the moderates who constantly berate and wag their fingers and renege on promises.

I will be voting a straight blue ticket because the GOP is so far gone down the rabbit hole, but I am not happy about it.
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Be careful, you might end up giving poor folks healthcare or something just as bad.
 
Guys you're operating under the assumption the Briar Rabbit really doesn't want to get thrown in the Briar Patch just because he says so.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
you are still laboring under the misapprehension that giving Republicans all they want is a form of compromise.
It is not.

get off your puny horse.
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What a silly and dishonest comment.

I never said anything about giving the GOP everything they want, or even 50% of what they want.

But of course it's better for you to make believe that I did, otherwise your argument kind of fails.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Guys you're operating under the assumption the Briar Rabbit really doesn't want to get thrown in the Briar Patch just because he says so.
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I agree that Republicans probably don't see a shutdown as the worst thing, but I think the split between the MAGA wing and McCarthy is probably genuine. This is only the most recent scrap in a long series.
 
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Hercules56 said:
Yeah, screw all the Jews and others who died in the Holocaust since the Nazis took power!! Theirs was a worthy sacrifice.


;)
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That's called "compromise". As in "we'll give these people up so long as you never come for us". And we all saw where that leads.
 
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