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Show me your papers?

Living in Ground Zero I can honestly say that things are very touchy here. I'd normally say I feel no personal threat at all but at this point I can't, even though I have no reason to.

It's definitely heated in our neck of the woods. Every where I go I see and hear people at odds about it. Workplaces are getting uncomfortable and it's the same thing that happened his first time around. You have the die hard cultists and then you have the die hard never-trumpers.

It's awkward as hell. I am not a fan. Trump has one thing right though, the only way the GOP is going to maintain control of, at least, the House is to invoke the insurrection act. If we have a midterm election it's going to be a blood bath. Just because the Trumpers around here like what's happening doesn't mean it's widespread. Among the noise I've heard online there are even some trumpers that are getting sick of it.
 
Not just Minneapolis St Paul; most of Minnesota is on edge from what my cousins in a town in Western Minnesota are telling me.
I'm 20 miles south of Duluth right now, things are calm in Carlton County.
 
No. It is not illegal to be in an area where there are suspected illegals, as you surely know.
I'm referring to Noem's point of view. She has a very distorted view of what it legal in the USA.

ICE cannot detain you unless they have reasonable suspicion that you are an illegal alien or have violated immigration-related laws.
I think ICE will detain anyone they want, for any reason. Has ICE been held accountable for any wrongful detentions? They have not as far as I know. What is "reasonable" to ICE might not be rational. Reasonable suspicion of what? Walking around while being a US citizen?

Surely, you know that is ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. First of all, they cannot even arrest you ("take you away") without probable cause. Second, they cannot use lethal force against you just because you resist. They need to reasonably believe that you pose an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm to them or to someone else.
Renee Good resisted opening her door for ICE. When her SUV grazed ICE officer Ross as she drove forward, he shot his handgun three times into the car while recording. Why was is reasonable for Ross to believe Good was a threat after she drove past him?
 
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As usual, no argument, no evidence. What a disgrace. Bye.

Why is it all of you have the exact same behavior pattern?

You crawl out of your hole, squat down and deposit a load of ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, proclaim it's actually gold, throw a fit when everyone else can blatantly see its ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, and crawl back in your hole before that uncomfortable cognitive dissonance has a chance to set in. Rinse and repeat.

There are several examples as evidence posted in the main ICE thread, or you could have done ANY research at all and found that literally everything you're trying to claim they can't and don't do, they have in fact done numerous times and continue to do without any consequences.

Like are you honestly so clueless you don't know what's happening but still need to come here and pretend? Or are you literally just trolling?
 
You crawl out of your hole, squat down and deposit a load of ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, proclaim it's actually gold, throw a fit when everyone else can blatantly see its ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, and crawl back in your hole before that uncomfortable cognitive dissonance has a chance to set in. Rinse and repeat.
Reminds me of the MO of all those conspiracy theorists of old, back when this forum was much more alive than today.
 
This weekend is going to be strongly blustery, snowy, and cold, so that will probably dampen the protests a bit. But the protests at the Federal Building seem to be escalating at the moment.
 
Most of my knowledge of mid-west cities is based on James Blish's 'Cities in Flight' novels; Scranton is bad. I do feel that if the spindizzy was invented now one might find the twin cities taking flight.
 
This weekend is going to be strongly blustery, snowy, and cold, so that will probably dampen the protests a bit. But the protests at the Federal Building seem to be escalating at the moment.
So you have Minnesotans (mostly descended from Vikings) protesting, and ICE 'police' from where ever the ICE are recruited from (Texas?); who do you think will bend before a bit of snow and wind?
 
Why is it all of you have the exact same behavior pattern?

You crawl out of your hole, squat down and deposit a load of ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, proclaim it's actually gold, throw a fit when everyone else can blatantly see its ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, and crawl back in your hole before that uncomfortable cognitive dissonance has a chance to set in. Rinse and repeat.

There are several examples as evidence posted in the main ICE thread, or you could have done ANY research at all and found that literally everything you're trying to claim they can't and don't do, they have in fact done numerous times and continue to do without any consequences.

Like are you honestly so clueless you don't know what's happening but still need to come here and pretend? Or are you literally just trolling?
Even the actual propagandists in the White House aren't outright denying that it's happening.
 

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