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Also, keep in mind that the JREF is not selling an alternate version of reality based on lies, accusing innocent people of horrendous crimes while exonerating the truly guilty. They wouldn't even have a product to sell had not 3000 people been murdered not very long ago. They are taking the event and making it All About Themselves, getting attention by telling anyone who'll listen that THEY are the only ones who know the For-Real Truth about what happened... and of course it's vastly different than the explanation given to the spouses, parents, children, and friends of the dead who probably still sometimes wake up in the morning expecting in their just-awakened haze their loved one to be there and then suddenly remembering they're gone.

The fact that both LC and the JREF have a web shop is irrelevant. What's objectionable is the product being sold.

 

[jaydeehess]

"Loose Change 2nd Edition DVD on spindle (50 Pack)

These are fully functional DVDs, provided to you at near cost for the purpose of handing out to people or copying for friends.


Price: $175.00"

"Near cost" my foot. I can get blank DVD's and a marker for much, much less than $175.

Heck, Amazon's got DVD's for barely $30.

This page contains info on DVD courses for specialised medical personel (about 3/4 the way down, just search the document for "dvd").

One set is 32 hours long and costs $1500. That's $46.88 per hour. At a similar cost structure "Loose Change" should then be almost 4 hours long.

That assumes that Jeffereson College has the same profit margin as Dylan Avery. However it should be noted that the CT crowd also claims that they have a very large following and therefore a greater audience than radiologists looking for DVD courses and therefore would be producing many more DVDs for sale than the college.

You can also purchase many other movies that cost $2M to make for a lot less than what DA is charging.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

Ummm....hold it here:




He's got a 2:ed of the 2:ed of Loose Change there...

SLOB

I was making a joke when I wrote that, but now I understand there actually is a second cut of the second edition of Loose Change? Or am I reading the replies in this thread wrong?

Lol, thats tust the ending to the RECUT 2nd Edition.

Cheers,
SLOB

 

[MRC_Hans]

Sorry, it's not. The JREF is a not for profit undertaking, louder than words is a business.

If you can document the latter, yes.

Randi draws a salary from the JREF, he is an employee, Avery and Co take profits from sales, they are business owners.

The exact organization structure is basically irrelevant. The chose of structure depends on tax regulations. If your cause is not one that can be tax excempted, then it makes no difference if you are organized as an employee or the owner.

They do not spend their money to "further the cause" in any way, rather they sell materials to others to "further the cause".

If you can document this, then you are right.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Also, keep in mind that the JREF is not selling an alternate version of reality based on lies, accusing innocent people of horrendous crimes while exonerating the truly guilty. They wouldn't even have a product to sell had not 3000 people been murdered not very long ago. They are taking the event and making it All About Themselves, getting attention by telling anyone who'll listen that THEY are the only ones who know the For-Real Truth about what happened... and of course it's vastly different than the explanation given to the spouses, parents, children, and friends of the dead who probably still sometimes wake up in the morning expecting in their just-awakened haze their loved one to be there and then suddenly remembering they're gone.

The fact that both LC and the JREF have a web shop is irrelevant. What's objectionable is the product being sold.

Your last paragraph (bolded by me) nicely sums up my point. However, the opening post claimed that the fact they sold this was proof they are in it for money. That is false. We may have such proof by other means, but the fact that they sell it on a web shop is not it.

Hans