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Shi'ite coup in Yemen

angrysoba said:
There have been a number of wars and other problems in Yemen for a while. However, I work with a Yemeni citizen tomorrow so maybe, if I ask tactfully, he will tell me what the deal is.
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I forgot to ask him, but he was wishing everyone a good day in his usual cheery way. :)
 
Childlike Empress said:
I'm no expert but I follow one or two on twitter, and from that I gather that it wasn't really a coup. When they had their Arab Spring, the (unbloody) "solution" was to replace one moustache with another, and the regime stayed the same incompetent and highly corrupt US puppet. This Houthi group seems to originate in Shi'a tribes but formed to something bigger with relatively broad support at least in the North. Their militias took over the capital Sana'a months ago already. But not the regime; instead they made demands about developing a new federal constitution and following elections. This seems to have made slow progress and they resorted to violence, including arrests/hostage-taking of a presidential adviser. This led to this "agreement" from Wednesday and the adviser was released as agreed. And now the regime resigned, which was not part of the agreement, apparently to the surprise of the Houthis.
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Yeah, if the U.S. stayed out of the area Yemen would be the garden of Eden reborn.

Every Yemeni I know here is damn glad to be here.
 
Saudi Arabia Launches Military Operations Against Houthi Targets in Yemen

Sputnik said:
[...] The military operation in Yemen started at 7 p.m. EST. It began with airstrikes, but will also involve “other military assets,” [Saudi envoy to Washington] al-Jubeir said, adding that artillery from a coalition of more than 10 countries is en route to Saudi Arabia.

Reports from the ground indicate that Saudi forces have bombed an office belonging to Houthi rebels in Sanaa's Jiraf area, with many casualties. Local residents say bombs from warplanes have completely destroyed the airport in Sanaa, which is now without power.

The airstrikes have caused the presidential complex in Sanaa to ignite in flames. [...]

"The Yemeni people are a free people and they will confront the aggressors. I will remind you that the Saudi government and the Gulf governments will regret this aggression," Mohammed al-Bukhaiti, a member of the Houthi Ansarullah politburo, told the Doha-based al Jazeera television. [...]

Saudi Arabia coordinated with the United States prior to the operation, according an American official who spoke to Reuters. [...]
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:nope:
 
Ruptly broadcasts live from mass protest in Sanaa right now. They're shouting "Death to America" (in English). Wonder if they hate it because of its freedoms...

 
trustbutverify said:
He might be happy to be in Japan. Don't blame him at all.
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My Yemeni co-worker recently told me he was extremely concerned for the safety of his family back home saying he is too frightened to look at the news or Facebook in case he sees something to do with them at the mercy of "these crazy people" who I assume are the Houthis.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Ruptly broadcasts live from mass protest in Sanaa right now. They're shouting "Death to America" (in English). Wonder if they hate it because of its freedoms...

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I wonder if they have any knowledge of America outside of what somebody told them to believe about America and Americans.

It's not like Cuba pre-'59 where any Cuban in Havana could see drunken American fools on parade.
 
A'isha said:
Even one of Russia Today's favorite pet loons described the conflict in Yemen as "a civil war [that] pits the Saudi-backed central government against the Iranian-backed Shiite Houthi rebels" (though, natch, he blames the CIA as being behind it all, tricking the Saudis and Iranians into fighting each other in Yemen to weaken them both).
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I Wish we had a CIA that was smart enough to pull off something like that....

But with the Houthi in control....


"We will be landing in Yemen in Five Minutes. Please set your watch back a Thousand Years".
 
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BStrong said:
I wonder if they have any knowledge of America outside of what somebody told them to believe about America and Americans.

It's not like Cuba pre-'59 where any Cuban in Havana could see drunken American fools on parade.
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They get bombed. They lose family member. They are told it was coordinated with the american.

"Saudi Arabia coordinated with the United States prior to the operation, according an American official who spoke to Reuters. [...] "

I doubt the average person would need more than that.
 
And that is relevant to now ... how?
Oh, wait, it isn't.

Proxy war between Saudis and Iran ... lovely, so long as no American boots are on the ground.
 
Darth Rotor said:
And that is relevant to now ... how?
Oh, wait, it isn't.

Proxy war between Saudis and Iran ... lovely, so long as no American boots are on the ground.
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Apart from the fact that wars are nasty to begin with and displace many people.
This conflict will also create a power vacuum in which all sorts of terrorist critters will manifest. This is how the world ended up with a nasty IS infection.

Yemen is a prime candidate for such a scenario.

So, this is different than the Iraq-Iran, where at least you had the cynical up-side that two odious regimes were weakening each-others ability to project power.
 
Good piece: Leave the Houthis Alone!

Justin Raimondo said:
[...] As I have written on many occasions, the "Sunni turn" – the US playing the "Sunni card" in Iraq and Syria – has been a disaster on so many levels that it’s hard to keep count. In Iraq, it led directly to ISIS – the mutant offspring of the so-called "Arab Awakening." In Syria, where US-backed "moderate" jihadists defected en masse to the ranks of our enemies, it led to the empowerment of ISIS and Al Nusra. And now in Yemen it is leading to the destruction of the Houthis – a long-suffering and valiant people – at the hands of our Saudi allies and their 10-nation alliance of despots. To add stupidity to deadly folly: our anti-Houthi pro-Saudi orientation is acting directly against our interests, which are supposedly focused on eliminating al Qaeda from the scene. In this instance, as in Syria, we are on the same side as al Qaeda. How does this make sense to anyone but Bibi Netanyahu? [...]
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I have a suspicion it would've made sense to the Houthi founder. Because a detail I learned from the flawed but interesting BBC docu linked in the Moon of Alabama piece is that the intense hatred for the US and Israel and the almost pitiful disgust for Al Qaeda displayed by the Houthi agenda comes not least from the fact that Hussein Al Houthi understood 9/11. He was "a truther".

btw, just like Raimondo, even the BBC docu shows (at least between the lines) that the "Houthis are just an Iranian puppet" talk is dumb orientalist pap.
 
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BStrong said:
Yeah, if the U.S. stayed out of the area Yemen would be the garden of Eden reborn.

Every Yemeni I know here is damn glad to be here.
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Hell, even if you had a decent Government, Yemen would not exactly be a wonderful country to live in. Some countries are just screwed by nature,and Yemen is one of them. Think of the Sun's Anvil from Lawrence of Arabia,and you ahve what most of Yemen is like.
 
Trebuchet said:
Ironically, the Islamic world of 1000 years ago was very advanced compared to Christian Europe.
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Oh, absolutely agreed.
But then things begun to go bad,and the Crusades were only a minor cause. It was the Mongolian devestation of the Islamic Heartland...what is now Iraq and Syria....that really wrecked Islamic Civilization.
 
trustbutverify said:
Nice.
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I first heard that joke in reference to Belfast during the height of "The Troubles", except it was 500 years instead of a thousand.
Things have changed quite a bit since the 80's in Ulster. I don't expect that to happen any time soon in the Mideast.
 
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