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Sharon Angle wants to shut down the US-Canadian border

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Sharon Angle tells Latino students that these scary looking hombres from her campaign ads may not be Latinos:
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I guess they must be Canadians because she then suggests that the real threat is the Canadian border, and that "we cannot allow anyone to come across our border if we don’t know why they’re coming." That would mean Canadians would have to get a visa to visit the US (and you can bet that it would mean the same for US citizens visiting Canada, because Canada would reciprocate).
 
What would be the benefit of such a measure?
 
As a Canadian, I'd appreciate anything Ms. Angle could do to keep Micheal Moore from wandering across the border, cleaning out our buffet restaurants and illegally interfering in our elections.
 
The U.S. can't shut its borders with Canada. It'd mean economic chaos for itself.

Where else would the U.S. get the 20% of its petroleum imports it now gets from Canada? (The U.S. imports more crude oil from Canada than from any single other nation.) Where else would it sell 20% of its export goods? (The U.S. sells more exports goods to Canada than to any other single nation.)
 
Corsair 115 said:
The U.S. can't shut its borders with Canada. It'd mean economic chaos for itself.

Where else would the U.S. get the 20% of its petroleum imports it now gets from Canada? (The U.S. imports more crude oil from Canada than from any single other nation.) Where else would it sell 20% of its export goods? (The U.S. sells more exports goods to Canada than to any other single nation.)
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In all fairness I think that she was referring to people, not goods.
Which is bad enough. Just don't want to conflate the issues.
 
Puppycow said:
Sharon Angle tells Latino students that these scary looking hombres from her campaign ads may not be Latinos:
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Well, the dude in the center does look like he modelled for one of the Olmec heads most often used to support a theory that they were actually African colonists, so maybe to someone nuts enough not to recognize that Angle is foaming at the mouth...:rolleyes:
 
Puppycow said:
I guess they must be Canadians because she then suggests that the real threat is the Canadian border, and that "we cannot allow anyone to come across our border if we don’t know why they’re coming." That would mean Canadians would have to get a visa to visit the US
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No, it doesn't mean that at all. We already question everyone who passes through a port of entry to determine the purpose of their crossing, whether they're American, Mexican, Rwandan, Canadian, or Swiss (who also don't need a visa, along with most European nations and a few Asian countries).

Seems like it should be clear to anyone who has at least a passing knowledge of what goes on at the border that she was referring to border crossings that take place away from a port of entry, aside from the (presumably rare) cases where a foreign national refuses to answer any questions at all during their inspection, in which case we'd just boot 'em back anyway.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
No, it doesn't mean that at all. We already question everyone who passes through a port of entry to determine the purpose of their crossing, whether they're American, Mexican, Rwandan, Canadian, or Swiss (who also don't need a visa, along with most European nations and a few Asian countries).

Seems like it should be clear to anyone who has at least a passing knowledge of what goes on at the border that she was referring to border crossings that take place away from a port of entry, aside from the (presumably rare) cases where a foreign national refuses to answer any questions at all during their inspection, in which case we'd just boot 'em back anyway.
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If we already do that, what do you think she was proposing then? A fence on the Canadian border?
 
Here's the full quote including the question she was responding to:

Question: Why is it that in all of your commercials you have the image of Latinos? What do you see when you hear, and I quote, “illegal aliens?”

Angle: I think that you’re misinterpreting those commercials. I’m not sure that those are Latinos in that commercial. What it is, is a fence and there are people coming across that fence. What we know is that our northern border is where the terrorists came through. That’s the most porous border that we have. We cannot allow terrorists; we cannot allow anyone to come across our border if we don’t know why they’re coming. So we have to secure all of our borders and that’s what that was about, is border security. Not just our southern border, but our coastal border and our northern border.
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
As a Canadian, I'd appreciate anything Ms. Angle could do to keep Micheal Moore from wandering across the border, cleaning out our buffet restaurants and illegally interfering in our elections.
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Hold on there. Lorne Greene was a Canadian actor who starred in Bonanza - which is a buffet restaurant!
 
According to the photographer, the scary illegal aliens that have shown up in several campaign ads are actually citizens of Mexico who are living in Mexico.

But I doubt this will stop Sharon Angle from being afraid of them. :rolleyes:
 
So should we just have open borders?

How much enforcement and orderly immigration should we have?
 
You can put up a 16-foot high 1,000,000-volt electric fence and ban all trans-border movement and the US would be no more "secure" than it is now. One of the US TV newshows visited Oregon (ISTR it was Oregon). There at least one stretch of the coast is protected by a highway patrol officer who drives along the coast rode a couple of times a week.

Priorities people. Priorities. :cool:
 
Puppycow said:
In all fairness I think that she was referring to people, not goods.
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Restricting people inevitably restricts goods and trade to some extent. Cross-border trade was considerably impeded by the changes made in security in the wake of 9/11.

Tourism, for example, is certainly impacted by restricting travel by people across the border.
 
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