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Sept. 16 Debate. Republican primary two-tier debate on CNN.

Ladewig

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Ladewig
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The lineup has been set:

6pm ET / 3pm PT - Santorum, Jindal, Pataki, Graham

8pm ET / 5pm PT - Trump, Bush, Walker, Huckabee, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Christie, Kasich, Fiorina.
 
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Advocates ask CNN to help tone down Republicans' rhetoric on immigration
A large coalition of immigrant rights groups is calling on the moderators of this week's Republican presidential debate to help tone down the heated rhetoric on illegal immigration that has dominated the GOP primary race.

In an open letter to CNN, which is hosting the debate, 62 pro-immigrant organizations from around the country voice concern about "the increasing hatred and vitriol being directed towards both people of color and the immigrant community by certain presidential candidates."

"The upcoming presidential debate will be a test as to how much leeway can be given to the language of hate," the letter says, while calling on moderators "to help bring back a civil debate."

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Ladewig said:
Advocates ask CNN to help tone down Republicans' rhetoric on immigration
A large coalition of immigrant rights groups is calling on the moderators of this week's Republican presidential debate to help tone down the heated rhetoric on illegal immigration that has dominated the GOP primary race.

In an open letter to CNN, which is hosting the debate, 62 pro-immigrant organizations from around the country voice concern about "the increasing hatred and vitriol being directed towards both people of color and the immigrant community by certain presidential candidates."

"The upcoming presidential debate will be a test as to how much leeway can be given to the language of hate," the letter says, while calling on moderators "to help bring back a civil debate."

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-09152015-htmlstory.html Scroll down
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The letter cites a recent attack on a Latino man in Boston in which the suspect may have cited Trump as an inspiration. That and other recent episodes are evidence that "these harmful words will turn into violence against our communities," the letter says.
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"increasing hatred"
"language of hate"
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They are advocating censorship. I don't recall any hateful rhetoric towards immigrants in the previous debate. Freedom of speech is fine unless people are saying something that they don't approve of.
 
Trebuchet said:
Why four and eleven?
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Two tiers: people who have a chance of getting the nomination, and those who don't.
 
Just to play Devil's Advocate....

mgidm86 said:
From the link above:

I don't recall any hateful rhetoric towards immigrants in the previous debate.
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The article never asserted that the hateful speech occurred during the debate, the letter asserted that it occurred during campaigning.

Freedom of speech is fine unless people are saying something that they don't approve of.

They are advocating censorship.
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I saw nothing in the article indicating that they wanted a prior restraint on speech. They asked that the moderators help tone down heated rhetoric. For instance, if a candidate says "Mexico is sending rapists here," a moderator could ask for a citation or source for that claim. Such an approach would help tone down heated rhetoric without being censorship.
 
Ladewig said:
Just to play Devil's Advocate....



The article never asserted that the hateful speech occurred during the debate, the letter asserted that it occurred during campaigning.



I saw nothing in the article indicating that they wanted a prior restraint on speech. They asked that the moderators help tone down heated rhetoric. For instance, if a candidate says "Mexico is sending rapists here," a moderator could ask for a citation or source for that claim. Such an approach would help tone down heated rhetoric without being censorship.
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Thanks for your corrections, will they be acknowledged?
 
Grizzly Bear said:
Fiorina got added to the main debate. Originally it was going to be 10... in the top tier IIRC. Not sure of the former
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Also, having an odd number lets them put Trump dead center. As they've reminded me about every three minutes for a week now.

My wife generally has CNN on in the morning. Their promos of the debate are taking up nearly all their air time. I will be SO glad when it's over.
 
I listened to the last one via streamed audio, since the video was not free to stream. But it looks like CNN will be video streaming tonight's for free. Much more interesting.

There are really only two things on tv that I enjoy partnering with a beer: US football, and presidential debates. On my way to the store now...
 
Denver said:
I listened to the last one via streamed audio, since the video was not free to stream. But it looks like CNN will be video streaming tonight's for free. Much more interesting.

There are really only two things on tv that I enjoy partnering with a beer: US football, and presidential debates. On my way to the store now...
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I'm assuming you mean CNN.com (since I don't cable. I'm one of those "streamers")
 
Aw, man, adobe flash player? That sucks. (iPad owner)

Any one know if I can watch flash on an xbox360 or something ? We have like four different non-cable gizmos in the stack.
 
I am sure that Trump is going to win the debate because he is going build a wall around the others and make Mexico pay for it.

By the way, I basically stole that joke from Stephen Colbert.
 
The first debate doesn't appear to be free-streaming on CNN. There is a short preview, but then you have to log in with your cable provider.

Hopefully the 8PM EST second debate will be different.
 
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