Sept 11th was Just Punishment

[Skeptic]

I'm not making the case for anything. Just pointing out that the opinion that Israel is the most enlightend nation in the mid-east depends on which side of the fence you're on.

Indeed so. And I am just pointing out the the opinion that the earth is a sphere depends on which side on the fence you're on, and it's important to understand why some people think the earth is flat.

 

[Ed]

I'm not making the case for anything. Just pointing out that the opinion that Israel is the most enlightend nation in the mid-east depends on which side of the fence you're on. So to speak. I didn't say I agreed with any of it. Just mentioning that alternative views exist and I think it's important to understand those views and how and why they exist.

Who would sincerely argue the opposite side of this argument? What might they say? Is your position that all positions in all discussions deserve consideration?

 

[a_unique_person]

I'm not making the case for anything. Just pointing out that the opinion that Israel is the most enlightend nation in the mid-east depends on which side of the fence you're on.

Indeed so. And I am just pointing out the the opinion that the earth is a sphere depends on which side on the fence you're on, and it's important to understand why some people think the earth is flat.

I am waiting for you to stop saying the world is flat.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 11th was Just Punishment

Originally posted by The Don

I don't *know* pre se but I did listen to a radio interview with a prominent Kuwaiti intellectual (about two months ago so his name escapes me) who expounded at great length how ot was somuch better to have someone (for example) who knew about drains in charge of the drains rather than some politician who was elected but knew nothing about them.

Yeah, the truth is Democracy is a terrible form of government. It only looks good when you compare it to its alternatives.

When you think about it, the things we like about democracy, the freedoms we enjoy, are not really democratic at all. Rather these are principles that have been set apart from democracy to protect them from being voted away by a majority of idiots.

Did this Kuwaiti fellow have a suggestion for a better form of government?

 

[The Don]

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Yeah, the truth is Democracy is a terrible form of government. It only looks good when you compare it to its alternatives.

When you think about it, the things we like about democracy, the freedoms we enjoy, are not really democratic at all. Rather these are principles that have been set apart from democracy to protect them from being voted away by a majority of idiots.

Did this Kuwaiti fellow have a suggestion for a better form of government?

He was suggesting a continuation of the existing Kuwaiti model of government, effectively an absolute monarchy underpinned by a combination of theocracy and oligarchy (providing advice to the monarch).

This may or may not be good for Kuwaiti citizens, and it certainly stinks for the foreign workers but my point way to indicate that there are other models of government and that these other models of government are supported, and in some cases are deemed to be successful by those who live under them.

 

[Ed]

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He was suggesting a continuation of the existing Kuwaiti model of government, effectively an absolute monarchy underpinned by a combination of theocracy and oligarchy (providing advice to the monarch).

This may or may not be good for Kuwaiti citizens, and it certainly stinks for the foreign workers but my point way to indicate that there are other models of government and that these other models of government are supported, and in some cases are deemed to be successful by those who live under them.

It is sort of hard to know that if they don't have an opportunity to express themselves, right?