Sept. 11 in Chile....an american shame.

[bikerdruid]

let's not forget american nastiness on another sept 11...

http://ilovechile.cl/2011/09/09/sept-11-chile-history-expect/30715
Since Salvador Allende became the first democratically-elected Marxist leader in Chile on Sept. 4, 1970 with 36.6 percent of the vote, years of investments in the economy were lost from the international community in response to Allende’s Communist ideas. Many Chilean people were dissastified with the government. The political environment was tense and talk of a coup by the hand of the Chilean Armed Forces was going on throughout the country.

The CIA and the U.S. government, motivated by communism hysteria with the Cuban Missile Crisis and losses in Vietnam, found a way to get involved and overthrow the newly-made Communist government without showing their hand. As these documents, released by the Freedom of Information Act show, they had been making plans, and providing arms and funds while creating contacts–particularly with Augusto Pinochet–to help in this endeavor.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Why do you hate America?

Did America take your lunch money or something?

 

[Skeptic]

Since Salvador Allende became the first democratically-elected Marxist leader

"Democratically elected Marxist" is like "democraticlaly elected Nazi" or "democratically elected Islamist". It's usually the last election ever to take place without the secret police making sure everybody votes for dear leader.

By the way, aren't you now admitting all those other Marxist countries were not actually democratically established? Strange, isn't it, for such a popular movement of the people?

Nor do I see why you should care. You repeatedly say that elections don't matter. Why do they suddenly matter now to you?

 

[bikerdruid]

"Democratically elected Marxist" is like "democraticlaly elected Nazi" or "democratically elected Islamist". It's usually the last election ever to take place without the secret police making sure everybody votes for dear leader.

your ignorance of the chilean situation is incredible.
your hatred is showing....

 

[Gazpacho]

Why do you hate America?

History hates America, apparently.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

your hatred is showing....

You're projecting again.

 

[Skeptic]

your hatred is showing....

Yes, you murder a few tens of millions of enemies of the people, and next thing you know, some folks just hate you for no reason.

Poor, misunderstood Marxism.

 

[bikerdruid]

Yes, you murder a few tens of millions of enemies of the people, and next thing you know, some folks just hate you for no reason.

Poor, misunderstood Marxism.

you are confused...in chile it was pinochet who was the mass murderer.
your ignorance of the history is embarrassing you.

 

[Gazpacho]

Hey now, let's not be one-sided here. Let's hear the case for Pinochet.

 

[timhau]

you are confused...in chile it was pinochet who was the mass murderer.

As a mass murderer, Pinochet is a small fry. Heck, if he'd been a communist dictator, his human rights record would be at the top of the pack.

Yeah, he was a despicable bastard, but as far as despicable bastards go, he wasn't the Hitler 2.0 some people make him out to be.

 

[angrysoba]

let's not forget american nastiness on another sept 11...

http://ilovechile.cl/2011/09/09/sept-11-chile-history-expect/30715
Since Salvador Allende became the first democratically-elected Marxist leader in Chile on Sept. 4, 1970 with 36.6 percent of the vote, years of investments in the economy were lost from the international community in response to Allende’s Communist ideas. Many Chilean people were dissastified with the government. The political environment was tense and talk of a coup by the hand of the Chilean Armed Forces was going on throughout the country.

The CIA and the U.S. government, motivated by communism hysteria with the Cuban Missile Crisis and losses in Vietnam, found a way to get involved and overthrow the newly-made Communist government without showing their hand. As these documents, released by the Freedom of Information Act show, they had been making plans, and providing arms and funds while creating contacts–particularly with Augusto Pinochet–to help in this endeavor.

Are there actually any newly declassified documents or are these the ones that had been declassified years ago? [This is a serious question not a rhetorical one.]

If they are not new then what we know of the coup against Allende is that technically the CIA and the US didn't overthrow him. I say technically, because it wasn't for want of trying.

The actual overthrow was made possible by the removal of the head military guy, Rene Schneider (sp.?) who the CIA appear to have formed a hit squad to have him "kidnapped" or well, taken care of in some form. Schneider was not a communist but had sworn to uphold the constitution of Chile and wouldn't order a coup.

He was assassinated by a group who turned out to be separate from the CIA's group.

As it turned out it wasn't until two years later that the coup finally occurred. Two years after the election.

I read an article recently in which new tests had been done on Allende to confirm that he had committed suicide during the coup attempt. There had been stories that he may have been killed by those perpetrating the coup.

Anyway, Pinochet was a **** and he killed lots of people by having them flown over the ocean and thrown out of the planes to their deaths.

 

[Virus]

John Pilger is a typical anti-West radical and supports Communist butchers like Fidel Castro and the North Vietnamese. He supported the Iraqi insurgency and Hezbollah. His beef with Pinochet was that he gored his ideological ox.

 

[Gazpacho]

John Pilger is a typical anti-West radical and supports Communist butchers like Fidel Castro and the North Vietnamese. He supported the Iraqi insurgency and Hezbollah. His beef with Pinochet was that he gored his ideological ox.

Why does your opinion of Pilger matter? He's not the one doing most of the talking.

 

[angrysoba]

John Pilger is a typical anti-West radical and supports Communist butchers like Fidel Castro and the North Vietnamese. He supported the Iraqi insurgency and Hezbollah. His beef with Pinochet was that he gored his ideological ox.

What's Pilger got to do with this?

 

[mikeyx]

let's not forget american nastiness on another sept 11...

http://ilovechile.cl/2011/09/09/sept-11-chile-history-expect/30715
Since Salvador Allende became the first democratically-elected Marxist leader in Chile on Sept. 4, 1970 with 36.6 percent of the vote, years of investments in the economy were lost from the international community in response to Allende’s Communist ideas. Many Chilean people were dissastified with the government. The political environment was tense and talk of a coup by the hand of the Chilean Armed Forces was going on throughout the country.

The CIA and the U.S. government, motivated by communism hysteria with the Cuban Missile Crisis and losses in Vietnam, found a way to get involved and overthrow the newly-made Communist government without showing their hand. As these documents, released by the Freedom of Information Act show, they had been making plans, and providing arms and funds while creating contacts–particularly with Augusto Pinochet–to help in this endeavor.

While America reflects on the real 9/11 you always have to have that one hippie so and so that has to try to point to something crappy...

every....

single....


time....

 

[Cleon]

While America reflects on the real 9/11

Help me out here. Why is one 9/11 "real" and the other one isn't?

 

[ponderingturtle]

Help me out here. Why is one 9/11 "real" and the other one isn't?

Because one should be 11/9?

 

[Cleon]

Because one should be 11/9?

 

[IDB87]

let's not forget american nastiness on another sept 11...

Yes BD, that certainly did happen on 9/11.

Do you believe the two events are analogous? Do you wish to point out the similarities between the Chilean coup and the Al-Qaeda suicide attacks?

I really don't want to believe that you did this in bad taste, so I'm open to hear what you think the relevance is.

 

[bikerdruid]

Yes BD, that certainly did happen on 9/11.

Do you believe the two events are analogous? Do you wish to point out the similarities between the Chilean coup and the Al-Qaeda suicide attacks?

I really don't want to believe that you did this in bad taste, so I'm open to hear what you think the relevance is.

the american supported pinochet coup is an example of the deplorable foreign policy that inspired the events of 911 2001.