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Senior member of Illuminati breaks silence

In one of the Austen Powers spy spoofs Scotty tells Dr.Evil "shoot him, shoot him in the head now" as DR. Evil prepares to set up an arcane way of killing Powers while no one watches to make sure it happens.

This comes to mind when reading of the insanely complex and arcane way these people have been trying to communicate with humanity through legends.

Just do it. Institute a massive e-mail spoof mailer and just come out and tell everyone what the score is. After reading that I still don't really know just who is out to destroy humanity or how they are doing it let alone how I could assist those who are fighting it. Admittedly I only read a few paragraphs but come on guy, if you want to get assistance come right out and ask for it.
Say it, do it now, clearly, and succicntly!

Scam or insane,,, 50-50 odds on each
 
"Incredible Secret" aside, if you look at the original writings of the Bavarian Illuminati and their critics, from Benedikt Stattler to Pat Robertson mostly authoritarian religious nutjobs and/or protofascists, i would say that if they exist today, it's much more likely to be in the form described above than the common form believed in by the usual conspiracy theorists.

Ewige Blumenkraft!
 
jmercer said:
Major overstatement, IMO... :) I've read sci-fi plots I considered second rate that blew that out of the water. In fact, there was a PC game called Deus Ex that had a better plot and dialog than that bit of trash. :D
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ya, after I posted i realized how run of the mill it was.

And Deus Ex still gets a replay out of me every few years - so frickin good..;)
 
I'll put it down on my list of books I have to read. Its number 935,627. Right after "the Turner Diaries," but before "T & Me" by George Pepard.

Drudgewire said:
And once again, the rogue unicorns come within inches of being exposed. That was a close one. [qimg]http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/sweatdrop.gif[/qimg]
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"Its a wise man who never plays leap-frog with a unicorn." --Banacek
 
Childlike Empress said:
"Incredible Secret" aside, if you look at the original writings of the Bavarian Illuminati and their critics, from Benedikt Stattler to Pat Robertson mostly authoritarian religious nutjobs and/or protofascists, i would say that if they exist today, it's much more likely to be in the form described above than the common form believed in by the usual conspiracy theorists.

Ewige Blumenkraft!
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In other words the more arcane and/or vague the description the more you like it?
 
The Illuminati, or their occult successors linked by initiation, do exist today.

They, are as near as I can figure. the Ordo Templi Orientis, and are a fraternal organization of religious occultists and they have a hard enough time running their own order.

The OTO is in no danger of running the planet at least any time soon.

See; http://oto.org/

They don't look so dangerous now, do they?
 
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Secret societies exist. The Skull and Bones is one of them. Powerful people belong to them, and they do control the world through business and politics.

You would be a fool to think that men with money, power, and ambition wouldn't use those tools to shape the world in any way they see fit. The goings on in the world are not just a series of accidents.

It has been said by past Presidents that "nothing in politics happens by accident, it is all planned". I tend to believe this given how human relationships work. When you hear about some senators sexual escapades, that was known about for a long time by people in power, they just ignored it until it served their purposes to reveal it.
 
hamelekim,

Secret societies exist. But you know, most of them are just like country clubs. And the ones that aren't usually exist for providing a cover for things society disapproves of like sex and ritual magick or both combined...
 
hamelekim said:
When you hear about some senators sexual escapades, that was known about for a long time by people in power, they just ignored it until it served their purposes to reveal it.
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So, what purpose was achieved by revealing Larry Craig's men's room escapades at the end of August instead of at the beginning of June?

Also, do you believe that these secret cabals include the top members of both political parties?
 
hamelekim said:
Secret societies exist. The Skull and Bones is one of them.
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Sure, secret societies exist. The Skull and Bones definately isn't one of them, because it's not actually secret. The whole point of secret societies is that they're, you know, secret. It's the ones you don't know about that you should be worrying about. Although there's no point worrying about them since you don't know about them, and therefore can't do anything about it. Whatever "it" is. Assuming there even is an "it".
 
hamelekim said:
Secret societies exist. The Skull and Bones is one of them. Powerful people belong to them, and they do control the world through business and politics.
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Hardy "secret" given that so many non-members know of its existance. The detailed inner workings are not desseminated true.

You would be a fool to think that men with money, power, and ambition wouldn't use those tools to shape the world in any way they see fit. The goings on in the world are not just a series of accidents.
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No need for a secret society for that, just stereo-typical smoke filled back rooms.

It has been said by past Presidents that "nothing in politics happens by accident, it is all planned". I tend to believe this given how human relationships work. When you hear about some senators sexual escapades, that was known about for a long time by people in power, they just ignored it until it served their purposes to reveal it.
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The sexual orientation and escapades of political leaders is more of an American obsession than most other countries in the G8.

Back to the OP, is there any reason that one should believe the guy that he is actually a former high ranking member of a secret society that runs the entire planet? Answer is no, I could , anyone could, have said the exact same things. He provides nothing that can be used to verify his claim.
 
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jaydeehess said:
Back to the OP, is there any reason that one should believe the guy that he is actually a former high ranking member of a secret society that runs the entire planet? Answer is no, I could , anyone could, have said the exact same things. He provides nothing that can be used to verify his claim.
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Read it again:

Our enemy has promoted the myth that we are somehow running the world. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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If you'd claim the same thing, i'd certainly believe you. :D
 
Childlike Empress said:
Read it again:


Our enemy has promoted the myth that we are somehow running the world. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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If you'd claim the same thing, i'd certainly believe you. :D
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Well its true, I don't run the world.

or is that just what i want you to think ,, muhahahahaa

seriously, is there anyway then to verify his claim that there is a group of several thousand rich people who are fighting the ,,, old world order, which we were supposedly and mistakenly calling the new world order/illuminati? Answer is NO, I could just as easily written that I am a member of the old gaurd who are out to enslave the people of the earth OR that I am one of the few who are attempting to stop that enslavement by secret back channels and no one could prove me wrong on either account since all I need do is not show any information that could verify it as not a complete fiction!
 
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BenBurch said:
hamelekim,

Secret societies exist. But you know, most of them are just like country clubs. And the ones that aren't usually exist for providing a cover for things society disapproves of like sex and ritual magick or both combined...
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Sex? Benburch, you're so predictable! That's why the Freepers love you! LOL!
 
Cuddles said:
Sure, secret societies exist. The Skull and Bones definately isn't one of them, because it's not actually secret. The whole point of secret societies is that they're, you know, secret. It's the ones you don't know about that you should be worrying about. Although there's no point worrying about them since you don't know about them, and therefore can't do anything about it. Whatever "it" is. Assuming there even is an "it".
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It is a secret society, in that, we don't know what goes on inside of it. There was someone who snuck into the ritual they perform once, but other than that, they don't talk about it. No one who is a member talks about it, and when asked, they refuse to say anything about it. They don't say it's just a social club for boys, they say nothing. It's also the bottom of the rung in terms of the secret societies.

They aren't just clubs for rich guys. Business and politics are done there. The Star Wars program was first created at Bohemian Grove, they talk politics and policy at these gatherings, and it shapes the future of countries.

You literally had 7 people who met and discussed what they were going to do about the economic problems that are currently going on. It was the heads of the major banking families, plus the Treasury secretary of the US. There wasn't a discussion by the politicians, it was purely the private bankers making decisions that affect the entire world.

You might argue that the CFR or Trilateral commission has no real power, but they do. The people who are members, who produce the policy papers on globalization are the same people who end up in the Presidential administrations and in the Senate and House. You think their views change once they are in power? You think they don't have agendas that go along with those policy papers? They know that people don't like globalization, but in their minds it is what is best for them, and for business, so they go ahead with it anyway, and hope that by the time the people find out about it, it's too late.
 
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