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"SEND HER BACK!" Will they defend this?

Ziggurat said:
Lots of people ignored it when a CNN reporter told Sebastian Gorka to "go home".
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So?

Do you think someone else being a hypocrite absolves Trump? Or you? Or means... literally anything at all?
 
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JoeMorgue said:
So?

Do you think someone else being a hypocrite absolves?
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No. I'm just trying to find out who is a hypocrite. smartcooky has indicated he's not. It isn't exactly difficult. Or it shouldn't be, though some still seem to struggle with it.
 
Ziggurat said:
No. I'm just trying to find out who is a hypocrite. smartcooky has indicated he's not. It isn't exactly difficult. Or it shouldn't be, though some still seem to struggle with it.
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Ah you're looking for reason to not address the issue and make another hijack.

Good job Jabba. You'll prove immortality any century now.
 
JoeMorgue said:
No. Ignoring Trump supporters is how we got Trump.

We can ignore the trolls when they can't then go vote. Until then we ignore them at our own peril.

Don't like it? Ignore me not ignoring them.
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Zig claims to not be a Trump supporter, despite the contrary evidence. I suppose we could ask him to support his claim and watch him disappear for a few weeks.

I’m not saying don’t address the BS, just don’t let him win by changing the topic.
 
Next, Trump will call a black person the N-word, and his apologists will tell us that it's not racist if a white person has at some point been called the N-word.
 
Ziggurat said:
Lots of people ignored it when a CNN reporter told Sebastian Gorka to "go home".
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A few reasons that incident may not have been a major news item.

1) No one has heard of Brian Karem. The president of the united states saying something is indicative of the policies and thought process of the most important arguably powerful person on the planet. A random person's actions do not carry so much weight. People are racist every day.

2) You label him a "CNN Reporter". He was there as a reporter for Playboy. He apparently works as an analyst for CNN, not a reporter.

3) Given the context of the altercation, the phrase "Go Home" does not seem to refer to leave the country, but rather, leave the rose garden and go to your house. I suppose you could imagine it intended the former meaning, but there's nothing from the context to suggest that. In Trump's tweet, he made it very clear that he was telling these women to leave the country.

4) A tweet is a written communication, done at the writer's leisure in their own time with ample opportunity to read and consider before one posts it. The altercation you're referring to was in the midst of an impromptu verbal fight. It's reasonable to put a lot more weight on the apparent meanings of a considered published text than on the possible interpretations of words blurted out in a heated moment.


You seem to be saying that consistency demands that we treat the leader of the free world explicitly calling for elected officials who are citizens to leave the country in writing with the same gravity as a reporter for playboy saying something which you could maybe imagine meant "leave the country" in the middle of a fight.

Really?
 
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Cavemonster said:
A few reasons that incident may not have been a major news item.

1) No one has heard of Brian Karem. The president of the united states saying something is indicative of the policies and thought process of the most important person on the planet. A random person's actions do not carry so much weight. People are racist every day.

2) You label him a "CNN Reporter". He was there as a reporter for Playboy. He apparently works as an analyst for CNN, not a reporter.

3) Given the context of the altercation, the phrase "Go Home" does not seem to refer to leave the country, but rather, leave the rose garden and go to your house. I suppose you could imagine it intended the former meaning, but there's nothing from the context to suggest that. In Trump's tweet, he made it very clear that he was telling these women to leave the country.

4) A tweet is a written communication, done at the writer's leisure in their own time with ample opportunity to read and consider before one posts it. The altercation you're referring to was in the midst of an impromptu verbal fight. It's reasonable to put a lot more weight on the apparent meanings of a considered published text than on the possible interpretations of words blurted out in a heated moment.


You seem to be saying that consistency demands that we treat the leader of the free world explicitly calling for elected officials who are citizens to leave the country in writing with the same gravity as a reporter for playboy saying something which you could maybe imagine meant "leave the country" in the middle of a fight.

Really?
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Holy cow. Is that the incident Zig is yammering on about?

"Go home" in that situation meant "return to your country of origin"?

That's just pathetic.
 
Trump Tweets

It is amazing how the Fake News Media became “crazed” over the chant “send her back” by a packed Arena (a record) crowd in the Great State of North Carolina, but is totally calm & accepting of the most vile and disgusting statements made by the three Radical Left Congresswomen...

....Mainstream Media, which has lost all credibility, has either officially or unofficially become a part of the Radical Left Democrat Party. It is a sick partnership, so pathetic to watch! They even covered a tiny staged crowd as they greeted Foul Mouthed Omar in Minnesota, a...

....State which I will win in #2020 because they can’t stand her and her hatred of our Country, and they appreciate all that I have done for them (opening up mining and MUCH more) which has led to the best employment & economic year in Minnesota’s long and beautiful history!
 
Trump tweet: It is amazing how the Fake News Media became “crazed” over the chant “send her back” by a packed Arena (a record) crowd in the Great State of North Carolina, but is totally calm & accepting of the most vile and disgusting statements made by the three Radical Left Congresswomen...
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And this right here is why "Okay but what about what the left did!" has become the last defense of the Trumpers. They learned it from their master.
 
Ziggurat said:
No. I'm just trying to find out who is a hypocrite. smartcooky has indicated he's not. It isn't exactly difficult. Or it shouldn't be, though some still seem to struggle with it.
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It's not that simple. Those words carry historical significance when directed at black/brown people.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

It is amazing how the Fake News Media became “crazed” over the chant “send her back” by a packed Arena (a record) crowd in the Great State of North Carolina, but is totally calm & accepting of the most vile and disgusting statements made by the three Radical Left Congresswomen...
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He keeps saying that, but what vile and disgusting statements?
 
varwoche said:
It's not that simple. Those words carry historical significance when directed at black/brown people.
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Great you just activated his "That's a double standard because I've rejected the very concept of 'context'" trap card. Stand by for another hijack.
 
Belz... said:
He keeps saying that, but what vile and disgusting statements?
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Oh I'm sure the retired Democratic 3rd Assistant Alderman from Spoonbend, Arkansas got caught on tape saying something problematic at a poker game in 1983 or something like that they'll find and demand we talk and admit "the... pause for dramatic effect... HYPOCRISY!" about before addressing the standing President of the United States telling 4 mostly American born non-white Congressmen to "Go back where they came from."
 
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So, it seems like nobody is defending the chant, well, except on this forum which is....well, nobody.
 
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