Seismology

[Swing Dangler]

I wrote a more succinct overview of the Ross / Furlong whitepaper in this post. Anyone who can read a graph can follow along and recreate their mistake -- even getting the same numbers -- in seconds.

Read a graph? I read their paper, there is no graph. There is a table, the same one that can be found at the LDEO website. Are you suggesting the LDEO data is wrong? On the other hand, I never would have suspected that waves from a plane impact would have a greater duration than the actual collapse.


I don't believe I'm exaggerating when I say that Swing Dangler has chosen to hide behind the stupidest, most embarrassing, and most thoroughly debunked bit of nonsense ever to come from the entire Truth Movement. They're not even trying anymore.

Hiding behind? That paper is neither theory nor hypothesis, but a statement of
publicized facts regarding the timing of the aircraft impacts.

Your long quote reposted below you:
1. Focus on the 9/11 Commission time and avoid the discrepancies by LDEO, NIST, FEMA, FAA, NTSB, and TV, as well as the Commission. The authors didn't avoid that at all as you claim. You of course avoid and in no way include the other various times presented. Good work or should I say dodge.

2. You then based the difference on "error" or a bad clock.
Again with absolutely no factual data to support the statement. Try using the numbers presented by the Federal Agencies instead of your own illogical examination of their varying numbers. That is just turrible. There is no question regarding the precision and accuracy of the instruments used to record both data time sets, since their entire function depends and relies upon temporal accuracy, and therefore there can be no doubt that both data time sets are correct.The problem is the data sets have different impact times.

3. You bring up the actual collapse times and state that it isn't discussed in the paper. Well of course not! The paper was not about the time it took for the building to collapse but you allude to the fact that this discussion not found in the paper should have been. I do find it interesting that the duration of the impact signals was actually longer than the collapse signals according to LEDO's table. This is most interesting and most likely can be contributed to something else other than impact.

And the best statement of all...

It seems unlikely that Middle Eastern terrorists could have overcome the WTC security and managed this kind of high-level, technological coordination.
It also seems unlikely that anyone in the world could have coordinated such a thing, namely bombs synchronized with airliner impacts. Bombs, I might add, that served no obvious purpose whatsoever.

Can't manage that but they can manage to infiltrate the country and avoid the FBI, CIA, and the military, take years of planning, take over 4 airliners without issue, avoid the greatest air defense system in the world, and strike three out of the 4 targets. They can accomplish all of this but it seems unlikely anyone could plant some bombs in a building by overcoming security at the WTC. T

o quote the great Mr. Barkley, "That's just turrible!"

 

[CHF]

Swing,

the McPadden WTC7 countdown was bad enough. And now you buy into this crap as well? Good lord!

Next I suppose you're going to claim that several hijackers are still alive....

 

[R.Mackey]

For anyone who wants to play along:

Here's the graph: Click Me

Look at the top two traces.

See if you can figure out why the correct impact times are 8:46:43 in the top trace, rather than 8:46:26; and 9:03:10 rather than 9:02:54 in the second trace. Feel free to ask for help if you need it, from anyone you like.

Time yourself, and score against the following chart:

0-5 Seconds ..................... NWO Overlord
5-30 Seconds ................... JREF Stalwart
30-60 Seconds .................. Critical Thinker
1-10 Minutes ..................... Novice
10-60 Minutes ................... Distracted
1-24 Hours ........................ Go ask your parents for help
> 24 Hours ........................ Truther
> 1 Year ........................... Craig T. Furlong

Thanks for playing!

 

[ref]

For anyone who wants to play along:

Here's the graph: Click Me

Look at the top two traces.

Here is a working link

 

[R.Mackey]

Only took you four minutes... but you did have a bum link to deal with, so I'll let it go.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Four seconds. Does this mean I get a better office at NWO Central?

Dave

 

[gumboot]

What has always amazed me, and continues to amaze me, about 9/11 CT claims is not that they are always wrong, but that it is so easy to determine they are wrong.

 

[rwguinn]

Only took you four minutes... but you did have a bum link to deal with, so I'll let it go.

It took me 15 seconds to get the actual number, but only about 20uS to know why--
But I already new the anser. I'd seed it afore..

 

[Mel Odious]

On the subject of seismology, I know absolutely nothing. On that subject, I am an idiot, a dweeb, a bonehead, a numbskull, an imbecile, a moron, an obtuse, empty-headed, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, shambling excuse for an uneducated ignoramus.

I figured out Mackey's graph in about three seconds. What do the truthers not understand about it?

 

[Jonnyclueless]

links to bollyn --> atack bollyin
links to Journal of 9/11 Studies --> atack Journal of 9/11 Studies

kind regards

Criminals --> police attacking criminals.
Person jumping off cliff --> person falling to their death
Links to 419 scams --> attack 419 scamers
Links to rapists ---> attack rapists.

Life just isn't fair is it? Liars and con artists just can't get a break these days and everyone has to attack them.