Seismic event indicating explosion at WTC

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, I was a bit sloppy with that quote. English is not my native language.

And logic is not your native science.

 

[Oystein]

So what?

NIST describes how much work went into establishing the 09:02:54 time (PAGE 3). Comparing this to something off the TV is silly.

http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire05/PDF/f05173.pdf​

You are a no-planer. By this, you have demonstrated the inability to judge evidence and logic.

Uhm ... NIST in fact describes how they used TV images to establish a corrected time of impact of 09:02:59.
(I am missing irony here?)

 

[Macgyver1968]

No, the actual impact of the 'plane' was at 09:02:54, and what was shown on television was a delayed version of the live video feeds needed to automatically insert the crude 2D computer graphic silhouettes of a plane. TV fakery to the core. Or as George W. Bush said: "I saw a plane crash into the building. ... The TV was obviously on."

LOL....so how did they insert all of those fake planes on all the amateur-shot videos? How about all of those people who saw the 2nd plane hit live..with their own eyes? No-planers are so funny.

 

[AaronMic22]

LOL....so how did they insert all of those fake planes on all the amateur-shot videos? How about all of those people who saw the 2nd plane hit live..with their own eyes? No-planers are so funny.

Eye witnesses and amateur video tapers were paid by the government.

It's very simple to explain such complex, dare I say impossible, circumstances.

 

[Oystein]

You remember incorrectly.

But by all means do some research to show me that prior to the second plane impacting the other tower people were saying it was terrorism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFyYNDzm8wo
At 3:00, Jim Ryan of Fox NY says: "So there would be the suspicion then that anybody who would drive plan smack in the middle of the WTC would have done it on purpose"
Caller Rosa Cardona Rivera replies: "It would seem that either that, or they lost control, but I can't see something like that, I mean it was like right into the building, so..."
That was at 8:56, still 6 to 7 minutes to go before the second hit.

At 7min10sec (clock: 9:00): "Now, it did seem to you that it was done on purpose?". Caller Jim Friedl replies: "You know, I don't know if I can say that, but it was a very odd type of turn. It was headed directly, directly, at the building"

2.5 minutes later, 2nd plane hits, and lady says "it seems to be on purpose"

 

[Oystein]

Eye witnesses and amateur video tapers were paid by the government.

It's very simple to explain such complex, dare I say impossible, circumstances.

Did they pay EVERY person who owned a camera and had a view on the WTC, either from their home or workplace or some spot the Hudson or East river bank that you walk to in 10 minutes?
So you are actually proposing that the government contacted about a million people in New York's 5 burroughs and Jersey City? Did they pay ALL of them?

 

[BigAl]

Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
I may remember incorrectly, but as recall, the television networks were talking about possible terrorist attacks even before the second plane hit.

You remember incorrectly.

But by all means do some research to show me that prior to the second plane impacting the other tower people were saying it was terrorism.

It's hazy and irrelevant now but I recall thinking of terrorism before the second plane hit because I was familiar with the Bojinka plot (1995) and the previous evening's BBC radio had news out of Afghanistan that suggested, to me at least, that something big was abut to happen.

There was also the 1993 bombing that I was all too close to. I may have been aware at the time that the perp of the 1993 bombing promised that they would make another try at it.

I also knew that ObL had declared war on us and there was the Cole bombing, just months earlier.

 

[Miragememories]

It's hazy and irrelevant now but I recall thinking of terrorism before the second plane hit because I was familiar with the Bojinka plot (1995) and the previous evening's BBC radio had news out of Afghanistan that suggested, to me at least, that something big was abut to happen.

There was also the 1993 bombing that I was all too close to. I may have been aware at the time that the perp of the 1993 bombing promised that they would make another try at it.

I also knew that ObL had declared war on us and there was the Cole bombing, just months earlier.

Let us not forget the USS Liberty.

MM

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I'm not an expert on seismology.

I'm not an expert on seismology.

I'm not an expert on seismology.

I'm not an expert on seismology.

I'm not an expert on seismology.

I'm not an expert on seismology.

I'm not an expert on seismology.

Is this getting through to anyone?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Let us not forget the USS Liberty.

Osama Bin Laden was only 10 years old in 1967.

 

[Bell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFyYNDzm8wo
At 3:00, Jim Ryan of Fox NY says: "So there would be the suspicion then that anybody who would drive plan smack in the middle of the WTC would have done it on purpose"
Caller Rosa Cardona Rivera replies: "It would seem that either that, or they lost control, but I can't see something like that, I mean it was like right into the building, so..."
That was at 8:56, still 6 to 7 minutes to go before the second hit.

At 7min10sec (clock: 9:00): "Now, it did seem to you that it was done on purpose?". Caller Jim Friedl replies: "You know, I don't know if I can say that, but it was a very odd type of turn. It was headed directly, directly, at the building"

2.5 minutes later, 2nd plane hits, and lady says "it seems to be on purpose"

Chief Joseph Pfeifer (paraphrasing) warned that the (AA11) crash could possible be a terrorist attack as the plane seemed to be aiming towards the tower.

 

[leftysergeant]

Let us not forget the USS Liberty.

Thank you for reminding us what sort of superstitions drive Da Twoof, Herr MM.

 

[NutCracker]

I feel sorry for everyone who wasted their time in this and other related threads. Hopefully, something good can come from it.

Yes. A few hilarious September Stundie nominations: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184483&page=4

 

[Andy_Ross]

If no aircraft hit the towers, what happened to the aircraft? What happened to all of the crew and passengers? Where are they?

Another 'No Planer'?? This can't be for real!

 

[DGM]

Another 'No Planer'?? This can't be for real!

I think he's standing in while Jammonius is fishing.

 

[Bell]

If no aircraft hit the towers, what happened to the aircraft? What happened to all of the crew and passengers? Where are they?

Another 'No Planer'?? This can't be for real!

That's the problem with the truthers. They have all kinds of explanations about the WTC and the Pentagon (cruise missiles, DEWs, nukes, keebler elves) but when asked to present a hypothesis about the airplane passengers, they are afraid to make any statement.

That's what a new investigation needs to uncover.

 

[tfk]

deleted. Wrong thread.

 

[carlitos]

To be fair, some of us have started replying with recipes and LOLcats, but I don't know how long that can last.

 

[Bell]

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

 

[tfk]

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

Yeah, my bad.

I was looking for some of Anders' posting history, to see if his earlier posts were as nutty & insincere as his current ones.

They were.

This was one of the reference windows I had open. When I finished, I accidentally posted it here.

The intended location is here.