Seeing Cryptids: The Problems

[dmaker]

Certainly it does. A trackway, an unknown scream, an odor, a resting/sleeping nest, all perfectly acceptable sign of something living and biological evidenced.

Yet you have zero objective evidence to prove any of these things were produced by an unclassified primate. The default position that it was not bigfoot remains unchallenged by alleged bigfoot evidence.

See my point?

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Yet you have zero objective evidence to prove any of these things were produced by an unclassified primate. The default position that it was not bigfoot remains unchallenged by alleged bigfoot evidence.

See my point?

Ah, but I was pointing out these sign that are experienced or left behind at a possible Bigfoot encounter as the difference between the social construct of slenderman and that proposed to explain Bigfoot.

It doesn't take much of an objective opinion to see a large ape like creature and view the tracks it left behind as evidence of the sighting. Slenderman doesn't work that way. Try again. Chris B.

 

[Resume]

It doesn't take much of an objective opinion to see a large ape like creature and view the tracks it left behind as evidence of the sighting. Slenderman doesn't work that way. Try again. Chris B.

It takes wishful thinking, or confirmation bias, or a bunch of ********. If there were such a thing wandering about NA, human beings would have discovered it long, long ago.

Try for the first time.

 

[Resume]

Perfectly rational conclusion based on current scientific knowledge of the subject. However, I would suggest "something" or "someone" makes these tracks.

Oh so would I. It just wasn't a 9-ft 600-lb monkey because there aren't any of those in NA.

Try for the first time? As if. Chris B.

Try looking at this from the only reasonable viewpoint, that being there can be no 9-foot, 600-lb monkey running around NA undiscovered. I'm not 12, neither are you, and this isn't recess on the playground.

 

[LTC8K6]

Since any caliber from .44 magnum and above can crack a cast iron engine block

Stop with the silly internet memes already...

Cracking a cast iron "anything" means little in terms of power.

Cast iron is brittle. Engine block thickness varies greatly from block to block and from point to point on each block. Cylinder walls are quite thin.

Next you'll tell us it has great "knockdown power"...

 

[HarryHenderson]

Something in this thread reminds me of this old Bill Cosby bit. It's say 11:00 PM at night, he and his brother Russell as young kids standing there explaining to their dad how their bed got broke by a man that came in the window and jumped up and down on the bed and left. (paraphrasing)

Dad: <SLAMS OPEN THE DOOR> WHAT IN THE WORLD is going on in here?

Bill: Some man came in the window and started jumping on the bed and we said our dad is gonna come in and whip us if you don't stop and he just kept on jumping.

Dad: C'mere! Stand here! What's this story about some man coming in the window jumping on the bed. Who do you think I am? Do you know where little boys go for lying? They go straight down. And they burn and they burn and fire and burn and screaming and burning and burning. DO YOU WANNA BURN?

Bill and Russell tearful response: NO DAD NO!!!

Dad: THEN TELL THE TRUTH!!!

Bill and Russell tearful response: THE MAN CAME IN!

 

[LTC8K6]

I do love the way Chris adds detail to his stories whenever a point is brought up.

 

[LTC8K6]

Chris talks about 25 feet...

The average man with a knife, standing 21 feet away from Chris, can stab him in well under 2 seconds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill

The average human cop is just able to unholster and get a shot or two off with an attack from 21 feet.
That's with practice and experience.

Your average person won't be as quick to draw and fire.

A mature "big boy" Bigfoot can surely cover the distance much faster than a man.

Chris is unlikely to get his hog leg out of his holster if a bigfoot charges from 50 feet. If he does manage to do so, he will probably get off one shot at best.

 

[Pterodactyl]

Yes I agree 100%, the odds say I'm full of crap.

What benefit would I receive for giving over to you my findings? I don't recall being in your employ? You should really check these feelings of entitlement with someone closer to you, it's not working for me. Chris B.

So, I know you're not talking to me Chris, but I have to ask, what is the point of paying for, creating, and publishing to a website, a bunch of pictures of dark blobs that you claim are bigfoot, but that you admit are so vague that you recognize they can't be considered that by everyone else, but then at the same time you claim to have a 15', clear HD image that you refuse to publish because "a clear image won't prove bigfoot exists"? The bad images you posted also do not prove that bigfoot exists.

Clearly you're not averse to posting images of what you say is bigfoot. So, what is the rationale for only posting bad images when you say better ones exist?

Also "what benefit" would there be for sharing such an image? Well if it's as good an image as claimed, and is actually of the claimed animal, it would be the best (Id say only) piece of legitimate bigfoot evidence ever produced, for one. Also, I know there is more than one poster in this thread who has published in legit scientific journals. If you have clear evidence that bigfoot exists, now would be a good opportunity to get an actual biologist to get a look at your stuff and maybe on the track of the recognition you're apparently after. Personally, if I were convinced by your image, Id be right up there with you trying to bag one and would love to co-author the paper, and add my own name to history books, finally bringing to acceptance such an animal. Chris, I wish you had what you say you have. But unfortunately, the facts just don't add up.

 

[dmaker]

I'm not here to present evidence for the existence of Bigfoot for you. Sorry.


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If you don't mind, then why, exactly, are you here if it is not to discuss alleged bigfoot evidence?

 

[Pterodactyl]

Also Chris; based on the photos on your site, plus the other stuff you say you have, it's apparent you're claiming to have had multiple sightings and encounters. Im wondering what is it about you, your approach, or your abilities that have enabled you to have seen these things up close on multiple occasions, but that everyone else is lacking who hasn't seen one.

Is it time spent in the field?
Elite athleticism?
God-gifted woodsmanship?
Master tracking/hunting ability?

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Oh so would I. It just wasn't a 9-ft 600-lb monkey because there aren't any of those in NA.



Try looking at this from the only reasonable viewpoint, that being there can be no 9-foot, 600-lb monkey running around NA undiscovered. I'm not 12, neither are you, and this isn't recess on the playground.

The thing is, the investigation. True, it's not in the scientific record to have a large hairy primate running around NA. But faced with a situation of finding those large unexplained footprints while investigating a sighting report, or a sighting of your own, one has to make some sort of conclusion based on the evidence at hand. Something or someone created those tracks. If the tracks are natural and not determined to be man made therein lies the problem. However unreasonable the conclusion may be according to the current knowledge of science, you can't claim divine intervention.

Stop with the silly internet memes already...

Cracking a cast iron "anything" means little in terms of power.

Cast iron is brittle. Engine block thickness varies greatly from block to block and from point to point on each block. Cylinder walls are quite thin.

Next you'll tell us it has great "knockdown power"...

This doesn't have much to do with the topic. If you don't know the capabilities of a 44 magnum, I suggest further reading, or better yet, buy one and experiment with it to determine your own findings. I think you'll find things don't go flying backwards when hit like in the movies.

The point made was and is cast iron is a bit harder than bone or muscle tissue. The 454 Casull and the 500 S&W Magnum are far more powerful than 44 Mag, and far more expensive. The caliber I carry serves my needs.
Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

If you don't mind, then why, exactly, are you here if it is not to discuss alleged bigfoot evidence?

Same reason as you I suppose, to discuss the topic at hand. You have any Bigfoot evidence to present for discussion? Chris B.

 

[dmaker]

The topic at hand is seeing cryptids. I don't claim to have seen any cryptids, but you do. Oddly, however, you refuse to discuss it.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Also Chris; based on the photos on your site, plus the other stuff you say you have, it's apparent you're claiming to have had multiple sightings and encounters. Im wondering what is it about you, your approach, or your abilities that have enabled you to have seen these things up close on multiple occasions, but that everyone else is lacking who hasn't seen one.

Is it time spent in the field?
Elite athleticism?
God-gifted woodsmanship?
Master tracking/hunting ability?

I had multiple encounters in 2010 and continue to research those areas and others. I have discussed elsewhere online that I use noninvasive, respectful observation methods modeled after other primate study techniques.

Since that time I have not had another sighting. Other members of our group have had sightings in these areas since as well as a few local reports. One such sighting listed in my previous post to Cervelo, happened about a month ago.

As I told Cervelo he may actually have a better chance of a sighting than I do according to the statistics.

It's nothing more than getting out in a good place regularly. Finding a good place is the hard part and that's what requires research of the historic sightings and theory of likely locations to look based on your own personal research. Then comes the field work, trekking the areas regularly. Beyond that is all by chance. After I've got my stamina again, I'll be out 3 or 4 times per week until Jan. Then break and begin again in March.

It's not anything anyone else couldn't do. Some of my theories are based on past experience with primates and that seems to be working somewhat. I don't have all the answers but I'm looking for them. Chris B.

 

[LTC8K6]

Chris is now claiming that when he shot the "big boy" and "big girl" pic/video, and filmed his family as well (as one of the bigfoot walked away), he was unaware that the spot was a squatchy area.

This means that he was not in the area because it was likely he'd be in the presence of bigfoot. He just happened to be there.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Chris is now claiming that when he shot the "big boy" and "big girl" pic/video, and filmed his family as well (as one of the bigfoot walked away), he was unaware that the spot was a squatchy area.

This means that he was not in the area because it was likely he'd be in the presence of bigfoot. He just happened to be there.

Yes that is correct. The sighting that ended our family outing happened in an area previously unknown for sightings. I just happened to be there. That's how it works sometimes in KY. Chris B.

 

[dmaker]

Chris, do your family members believe to have seen bigfoot as well? If not, do they share your belief regardless?

 

[LTC8K6]

The thing is, the investigation. True, it's not in the scientific record to have a large hairy primate running around NA. But faced with a situation of finding those large unexplained footprints while investigating a sighting report, or a sighting of your own, one has to make some sort of conclusion based on the evidence at hand. Something or someone created those tracks. If the tracks are natural and not determined to be man made therein lies the problem. However unreasonable the conclusion may be according to the current knowledge of science, you can't claim divine intervention.



This doesn't have much to do with the topic. If you don't know the capabilities of a 44 magnum, I suggest further reading, or better yet, buy one and experiment with it to determine your own findings. I think you'll find things don't go flying backwards when hit like in the movies.

The point made was and is cast iron is a bit harder than bone or muscle tissue. The 454 Casull and the 500 S&W Magnum are far more powerful than 44 Mag, and far more expensive. The caliber I carry serves my needs.
Chris B.

Guns are a hobby of mine, I also served in the US Army. I have fired a Model 29 often, although I do not own one. I have posted pics of my own guns and of the guns I have fired.

The "engine block" story is a claim designed to impress the gullible, and it began with the 357 magnum. It doesn't really tell you much about the round's ability to get you killed by a grizzly bear, or not.

There are plenty of actual demonstrations available on the internet.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-54-busting-an-engine-block/

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Guns are a hobby of mine, I also served in the US Army. I have fired a Model 29 often, although I do not own one. I have posted pics of my own guns and of the guns I have fired.

The "engine block" story is a claim designed to impress the gullible, and it began with the 357 magnum. It doesn't really tell you much about the round's ability to get you killed by a grizzly bear, or not.

There are plenty of actual demonstrations available on the internet.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-54-busting-an-engine-block/

I tried it, personally because I wanted to know myself if the engine block busting 44 claim was true. It was and is. Mine knocked a hole thru a small block Chevy bare block.

A good friend of mine enjoyed bear hunting in New Mexico. He used a large caliber rifle but always carried a 44 mag on his side. It was his assertion anything smaller could bounce off a bear's skull.

I like guns too. The most ridiculous one I have is a 50 BMG rifle that I've owned for 2 years. I have yet to fire it. Since it weighs 38 lbs, I'm not physically able to carry it in the field anyway. Chris B.