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Second Pres Debate: Who Won?

It's funny but I am just not as negative about these things.

YES they do a some dodging on issues but they did a whole lot better answering questions than people here are giving them credit for.

I think they dodged that last question completely but that was a tricky one. But I will stand by what I said above, they did actually answer questions. The talked about the economy when a question was asked about the economy, they talked about foreign policy when questions were asked about foreign policy... they only have a limited time to answer, what do we expect them to say?

Anyway, I guess I am the odd one out here but they did answer questions in a way that helped me understand their stance on issues.
 
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Dymanic said:
I suppose if he had been more successful in his usual attempts to misrepresent Obama's position I might have conceded that he had "won", but he doesn't do so well at that when Obama is there to straighten things out.
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My purely biased opinion is that it looked good for Obama to aggressively refute McCains claims, even going so far as to force a follow-up he wasn't supposed to have. I liked the "I'm not going to take that lying down" attitude.
I missed the first half hour though, so I don't know if McCain had any moments like that.
 
Cain said:
Our elections are ****ed up.
Gerrymandering -- packing, stacking and cracking -- has resulted in many non-competitive seats for the House. Politicians choosing voters rather than voters choosing their legislators.
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I totally agree about the gerrymandering. I was surprised when that came up in California but didn't pass. There oughta be a law against it.
 
Gerrymandering sucks. It's a real problem that should be dealt with... but sadly I don't think it ever will be.
 
To me the big loser here was Brokaw. The format of the 1 minute follow up was a joke. He either should have abandon it completely or stopped them mid sentence to keep to the rules.

My wife and and both looked at each other when McCain twice said Obama would attack Pakistan. Clearly, that was a talking point he had and was going to make it regardless if just 30 seconds earlier Obama clearly stated something different. Then for him to say it again....
 
noch1Narr said:
Obama came across as relaxed and poised, whereas McCain came across as angry,spiteful and downright nasty: "that one!" that shabby reference to Obama WILL get plenty of play on the next SNL!
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You nailed it. But Obama's campaign is beating SNL to the punch on this one...

Obama campaign highlights 'that one'

Damn these guys move fast! I wonder how this will play in the press over the next couple of days? We'll see.
 
Well, first polling numbers I have hear is this from CBS News (400 uncommitted / independent voters)

39% Obama
35% Draw
27% McCain

About where we were after the first debate.
 
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not_so_new said:
Well, first polling numbers I have hear is this from CBS News (400 uncommitted / independent voters)

39% Obama
35% draw
27% McCain

About where we were after the first debate.
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We've got CNN's poll earlier in the thread. Obama by 24.
 
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