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Secession?

Alferd_Packer said:
Arizona's uber-right-wing wack job / Neo-Nazi state Senate President, Russell Pearce, has proposed a bill that would allow the state to nullify federal law.

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/sb1433p.htm

Arizona is such a total joke right now.
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God, South Carolina has the rep for being the most conservative state in the union, but even they shy away from this craziness. They must remeber how well nullification worked in 1832 when Andy By God Jackson was President, and how well out and out secession worked in 1860......
 
Alferd_Packer said:
Arizona's uber-right-wing wack job / Neo-Nazi state Senate President, Russell Pearce, has proposed a bill that would allow the state to nullify federal law.

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/sb1433p.htm

Arizona is such a total joke right now.
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From the proposed law:

The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees and reserves to the states or their people all powers not specifically granted to the federal government elsewhere in the Constitution as they were publicly understood at the time that the amendment was ratified
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I see what you did there.
 
From the proposed law:

The committee may recommend for nullification existing federal statutes, mandates and Executive orders enacted before the effective date of this section.
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Sounds like a party!

"Screw OSHA!!"
 
I'm thinking this will end badly for Arizona.
 
The capacity of some members of the Republican party to simultaneously claim that various things (from the Department of Education to bike trails) are unconstitutional while proposing bills that are clearly and patently unconstitutional never ceases to baffle me.
 
what's next? folks in Arizona no longer calling themselves American?

Now they are "Arizonian"?
 
I blame it on the fact that it's the last mainland state to enter the Union.

These Johnny-come-lately states apparently aren't taught the history: that we already rejected the Articles of Confederation and that we fought a bloody Civil War over roughly that same notion again. And that we actually have a federalist system with a relatively strong central government.
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Seriously, I feel sorry for the good people of that state having a handful of very vocal state legislators. (FWIW, Missouri isn't a lot better off. We passed one of the laws that would nullify the healthcare reform law--as if the supremacy clause didn't exist.)
 
A Laughing Baby said:
The capacity of some members of the Republican party to simultaneously claim that various things (from the Department of Education to bike trails) are unconstitutional while proposing bills that are clearly and patently unconstitutional never ceases to baffle me.
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Apparently only federal government is bad and only if legislation doesn't arise from religious ideas.
 
Yeah, secession... I can see nothing but upside for a new landlocked country composed of mostly desert! Just look how well Niger is doing.
 
I say let 'em go. Their inevitable war with Mexico should be a hoot to watch from the sidelines.
 
Stellafane said:
I say let 'em go. Their inevitable war with Mexico should be a hoot to watch from the sidelines.
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Hell, there might be a war with California since Colorado River water rights are a hot button issue between the two states......
 
The next secession wont be fought with guns it'll be fought in the courts. The feds. can only govern the willing. If states secede there wont be anyone willing to enforce federal law and occupation armies are awful costly.
 
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