Seasteading

[Puppycow]

Is "seasteading" the way to achieve a libertarian utopia?
Seasteading

This is a video of a talk on "seasteading" at the libertarian Cato Institute.
The featured speaker is Patri Friedman, grandson of Milton Friedman.

I loled.

 

[FlamingMoe]

I found the idea and the panel quite interesting, actually.

 

[drkitten]

Is "seasteading" the way to achieve a libertarian utopia?

No, but a lot of the people who don't realize that libertarian utopias are unachievable think it is.

 

[Alt+F4]

Living on a floating platform in the middle of the ocean doesn't sound like any sort of utopia to me.

 

[DC]

Living on a floating platform in the middle of the ocean doesn't sound like any sort of utopia to me.

Depends with who you share the floating platform

 

[linusrichard]

Living on a floating platform in the middle of the ocean doesn't sound like any sort of utopia to me.

Depends with who you share the floating platform

Okay. Living with assorted Randian supermen on a floating platform in the middle of the ocean doesn't sound like any sort of utopia to me.

 

[DavidJames]

Okay. Living with assorted Randian supermen on a floating platform in the middle of the ocean doesn't sound like any sort of utopia to me.

Me either, but it does sound like the makings of a reality TV show I might actually watch. In the same why I might watch a train wreck or car accident.

 

[Alt+F4]

Me either, but it does sound like the makings of a reality TV show I might actually watch. In the same why I might watch a train wreck or car accident.

I'd tune it to see who gets voted off the platform and, when they do, does the person get pushed off the platform into the sea?

I think this show would have a lot of potential!

 

[DC]

I'd tune it to see who gets voted off the platform and, when they do, does the person get pushed off the platform into the sea?

I think this show would have a lot of potential!

cool i love shark docus

 

[DavidJames]

I'd tune it to see who gets voted off the platform and, when they do, does the person get pushed off the platform into the sea?

No, that would be an inappropriate initiation of force. In fact, I'm not sure they would even vote. I suspect each week one of them would, using natural law of course, recognize they were the weak link and hurl themselves off the platform.

 

[dudalb]

No, that would be an inappropriate initiation of force. In fact, I'm not sure they would even vote. I suspect each week one of them would, using natural law of course, recognize they were the weak link and hurl themselves off the platform.

Or the ones voted out would Mutiny......


Just another Dumbutt LIbertarian idea..

 

[dudalb]

I found the idea and the panel quite interesting, actually.

With your avatar that is not surprising.

 

[dudalb]

Is "seasteading" the way to achieve a libertarian utopia?
Seasteading

This is a video of a talk on "seasteading" at the libertarian Cato Institute.
The featured speaker is Patri Friedman, grandson of Milton Friedman.

I loled.

Sad to see the Cato Insitute going down the kook path. They were the voice of halfway realistic libertarians, but they seem to be losing it.

 

[Ziggurat]

Is "seasteading" the way to achieve a libertarian utopia?

No, it's a way to attract pirates. And no, I'm not kidding.

 

[DavidJames]

Or the ones voted out would Mutiny......

Actually upon further thought, I suspect the "odd" one would build their own platform, then another one would and so on.

Eventually, each Libertarian would be on their own platform.

 

[DC]

I found it a pretty interesting video

thanks for posting it

 

[linusrichard]

No, it's a way to attract pirates. And no, I'm not kidding.

It's okay, the libertarians have a solution for that too.

Because I can't see any negative economic or national security implications to having, say, China own the Pacific Ocean, can you?

 

[dudalb]

God, that article is a perfect example of how blind belief in an ideology can make you stupid.

 

[FlamingMoe]

I don't see what makes this idea so off-the-wall. Patri Friedman is right: in order to change any government on any speck of land you need to either win a war or an election. Neither is particularly easy, what with not having sufficient guns for the former and the prospect of the latter isn't realistic when you're proposing to cut a bunch of pandering programs that buy votes. In short, there's no land left to try your new system of government.

If they are really convinced they have the superior method of governance, and can defeat the technological obstacles to seasteading, what the hell do you really care if they do it? People like dudalb seem to hate libertarians anyway, so he should be glad at least some of them would leave.

 

[quixotecoyote]

I don't see what makes this idea so off-the-wall. Patri Friedman is right: in order to change any government on any speck of land you need to either win a war or an election. Neither is particularly easy, what with not having sufficient guns for the former and the prospect of the latter isn't realistic when you're proposing to cut a bunch of pandering programs that buy votes. In short, there's no land left to try your new system of government.

If they are really convinced they have the superior method of governance, and can defeat the technological obstacles to seasteading, what the hell do you really care if they do it? People like dudalb seem to hate libertarians anyway, so he should be glad at least some of them would leave.

You seem to be suggesting that because we think it's idiotic, we think they shouldn't try it and that we should change our minds on both issues.

I think it's a silly silly silly idea, but it would be cool to watch it crash and burn. Maybe they can partially fund themselves through setting it up as reality tv.