Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

The Vampire said:
Strange how this thread and the name "Sean Manchester" keeps bobbing up like a corpse in a lake...
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Whose name would you prefer in a thread entitled, "Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter"?

Funny how your name turns up at such mentions too. How's Dave (he of the "psychic entity") and the gang, by the way?
 
The Overseer said:
Whose name would you prefer in a thread entitled, "Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter"?

Funny how your name turns up at such mentions too. How's Dave (he of the "psychic entity") and the gang, by the way?
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Funny how I was the one who started the thread. I guess that's why my name is here.

Well hello Right Revrunt! You gave yourself away on that. Only Sean of the Dead and his various screen personas thought I was somehow connected to David Farrant.

Cast out any devils lately? Do you still ride around on your horse Charger? Carol Page asked that same question not too long ago.
 
I see he's still active online. From his entry in The Red Pill Wiki:

In appearance he seems a Byronic character, and fittingly so if he is as some Byron scholars claim, the poet's great, great, great grandson by his favorite maid, Lucy. Lord Byron provided for both Lucy and his child by her, a total of £100 a year in his will.
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I couldn't help but laugh when I read this. Since when is looking like Father Jack called Byronic?
 
Bish, I'll pay you and Farrant $300 each to wrestle on video - you wear the Bishop costume, David wears the Vampire costume. I will edit out the dull parts. Pretty sure I can get you on E Entertainment TV or perhaps an MTV News mention.
 
REAL Vampires

Hi All,
My name is Tony, I'm new here.
I am wondering, does anyone on this board accept the real, documented fact of blood drinking people?
first some personal background:
4yrs NYPD(before health inssues got me out of active duty) working in the Unusual Occurances division reports/archives AND Field Investigations(including undercover in the Satanic/Cult Crimes Unit)
3yrs private practice pyscho-therapist in NY State
25yrs sci-fi film and tv writer(free-lancer)
27yrs amateur(not paid/money motivated) para-normal/crypto-zoological
investigator
Single/Unattached skeptic at large
Newly licensed(in Florida) Private Investigator

I have every book on modern day Vampires--Noreen Dresser, Guily, Carol Page, etc. and all of these show a PSYCHOLOGICAL/PHYSIOLOGICAL
phenomenon of LIVING people who believe they ARE Vampires!

Personally I view such folks two ways: Delusional and kinky and Mentally Ill
in a pathological or physiologically deficient way(they may suffer pernicious anemia, or certain forms of advanced morbid diabieties, etc.)

I personally had a rather icky(no other way to describe it, LOL) encounter with a "living" Vampire:

while a Guest of Honor at a sci-fi/role playing games convention in Connecticut in 1995(I am also a writer of both fiction and non fiction)
I "sat in on" a "LARP--Live Action Role Playing event" about a popular vampire themed game(the game inspired Joss Whedon and others to create Vampire themed tv shows or so the myth goes)

During the course of the event, I made the rather rapidly intimate acquaintance of a gorgeous young single female. After said event, and over superb white wine, we went to her room.
One thing lead to another, and before I knew it, those fangs in her mouth that I assumed were halloween costume "caps"/over lays, WERE BEING SUNK INTO MY NECK! Before she could get more than a miniscule pin prick of them in me, I pushed her away and bolted upright, facing her.

"What the hell was that?" I asked, scared.
"I thought you knew--I thought you were into it--I'm a REAL VAMPIRE!"

I backed out the door and bolted--needless to say, I avoided her the rest of the weekend, except when she was present at my panels and book signing.

Thankfully, she was AIDS/HIV etc. tested, and found clean(disease free)

I think Sean Manchester, David Farrant and the female authors I mentioned, are "onto" something. I believe they are into different interpretations of
the Vampire phenomenon, but they are still "onto" SOMETHING.

If Manchester and Farrant wish to believe in their concept, and Dresser, Page and Guily wish to believe in theirs, then I have no problems with it, personally.

I merely recount what happened to me and what I have seen in my own life experiences. Vampires of a mentally deluded and or physically ill type definitely do exist. As to the UNDEAD type--Chirstopher Lee etc. movie types?
Personally it's all just overwrought bodice ripper styled erotic fiction!
 
No, I'm Not the Bishop or Myth Buster either

Hi The Vampire,

Funny how I was the one who started the thread. I guess that's why my name is here.
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Funny that, indeed.

Well hello Right Revrunt! You gave yourself away on that. Only Sean of the Dead and his various screen personas thought I was somehow connected to David Farrant.
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Or, I could have read through the threads. Your call. For the record, I am not Sean Manchester, something I'm sure even Mr. Farrant could inform you of. Nor am I a member of any of his other associations.

Are you saying you are not a member of Farrant's forum or that you've not been in personal communication with him?

Cast out any devils lately? Do you still ride around on your horse Charger? Carol Page asked that same question not too long ago.
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I haven't cast out any devils, ever. I don't own a horse. I've read Page's book, though. I own a first edition of it that I purchased off eBay. Never met her though.

Hi Big Les,

Oh, Bish. How could you lie to me?
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I didn't. I'm not the Bishop. Or one of his "cronies".

Hi CLD,

Bish, I'll pay you and Farrant $300 each to wrestle on video - you wear the Bishop costume, David wears the Vampire costume. I will edit out the dull parts. Pretty sure I can get you on E Entertainment TV or perhaps an MTV News mention.
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It might be an interesting proposition for both concerned, but you'd have to direct it to the actual Bishop. And Farrant. Not me. Though your fetish for this scenario is a tad disconcerting.
 
For tony.d.

Hi tony.d.

Here's my response to (a slightly abridged version of) your post:

I am wondering, does anyone on this board accept the real, documented fact of blood drinking people?
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This isn't of dispute, Tony. There are people out their who drink blood, be it for a percieved neccessity, cultural or traditional reasons, etc. So, yes, I accept that.

4yrs NYPD(before health inssues got me out of active duty) working in the Unusual Occurances division reports/archives AND Field Investigations(including undercover in the Satanic/Cult Crimes Unit)
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I didn't think the NYPD would have this division.

3yrs private practice pyscho-therapist in NY State
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Your services may be required on this forum, then!

25yrs sci-fi film and tv writer(free-lancer)
27yrs amateur(not paid/money motivated) para-normal/crypto-zoological
investigator
Single/Unattached skeptic at large
Newly licensed(in Florida) Private Investigator
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If that's the case, then you might be able to provide some expertise on the subject at hand.

I have every book on modern day Vampires--Noreen Dresser, Guily, Carol Page, etc. and all of these show a PSYCHOLOGICAL/PHYSIOLOGICAL
phenomenon of LIVING people who believe they ARE Vampires!
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Again, this isn't really disputed...well, at least with the psychological impulse. The physiological one is highly doubtful. You might also want to check out Katherine Ramsland's Piercing the Darkness: Undercover With Vampires in America Today. But just remember, people also think that they're Napoleon Bonaparte, too.

Personally I view such folks two ways: Delusional and kinky and Mentally Ill
in a pathological or physiologically deficient way(they may suffer pernicious anemia, or certain forms of advanced morbid diabieties, etc.)
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Yes, that may be so, but I haven't really heard of people with pernicious anemia or advanced morbid diabetes going out in search of blood. I'd say it's more of a compulsion/embrace of a lifestyle or delusion. There are many reasons why people drink blood. But we must be careful under what category we put them under. In 1985, Dr. David Dolphin gained popularity on his theory linking the origins of the vampire myth with porphyria. Despite the rather flimsy evidence presented, it caused a lot of hassles for people with the real-life condition. As you'd know, Norine Dresser writes an excellent chapter on this in American Vampires: Fans, Victims, Practitioners. It's pretty much well-established now, that there is no link between vampirism and porphyria at all.

I personally had a rather icky(no other way to describe it, LOL) encounter with a "living" Vampire:

while a Guest of Honor at a sci-fi/role playing games convention in Connecticut in 1995(I am also a writer of both fiction and non fiction)
I "sat in on" a "LARP--Live Action Role Playing event" about a popular vampire themed game(the game inspired Joss Whedon and others to create Vampire themed tv shows or so the myth goes)
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I presume you mean White Wolf's Vampire: The Masquerade.

During the course of the event, I made the rather rapidly intimate acquaintance of a gorgeous young single female. After said event, and over superb white wine, we went to her room.
One thing lead to another, and before I knew it, those fangs in her mouth that I assumed were halloween costume "caps"/over lays, WERE BEING SUNK INTO MY NECK! Before she could get more than a miniscule pin prick of them in me, I pushed her away and bolted upright, facing her.
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Sounds like a wonderful scenario from a movie.

"What the hell was that?" I asked, scared.
"I thought you knew--I thought you were into it--I'm a REAL VAMPIRE!"
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Or possibly a woman with specially made dental caps. There are dentists out there who cater to this request. She may also have been a tad unbalanced.

I backed out the door and bolted--needless to say, I avoided her the rest of the weekend, except when she was present at my panels and book signing.
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I hope she didn't try to bite you then, either.

Thankfully, she was AIDS/HIV etc. tested, and found clean(disease free)
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How did you pin her down long enough, to test this out? I hope you didn't just take her word on it.

I think Sean Manchester, David Farrant and the female authors I mentioned, are "onto" something. I believe they are into different interpretations of
the Vampire phenomenon, but they are still "onto" SOMETHING.
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That's all dependent on whether or not they're not concoting the whole thing in the first place. You also seem to be implying something more supernatural than the blood-drinkers you mentioned earlier, though. It should be noted that the female authors you mentioned are skeptics (with the possible exception of Guiley).

If Manchester and Farrant wish to believe in their concept, and Dresser, Page and Guily wish to believe in theirs, then I have no problems with it, personally.
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Obviously, the people of this forum don't agree with that. Manchester's pretty much been a pinata on here, Farrant less so. The difference between the two is that Manchester's pretty much stuck to his classic, blood-sucking undead version, while Farrant seems to have wavered on it over time, at least according to press reports. Which is interesting considering that he adamantly maintains that he never believed in this version of vampire. I've been trying to get him to validate the contents of these reports, but he has been remarkably reluctant to do so (see "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread).

I merely recount what happened to me and what I have seen in my own life experiences. Vampires of a mentally deluded and or physically ill type definitely do exist. As to the UNDEAD type--Chirstopher Lee etc. movie types?
Personally it's all just overwrought bodice ripper styled erotic fiction!
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I kinda saddle with you on that one. If we are to look at a "proper" version of vampire (to me, anyway), that is, of folklore and exhumations carried out by government authorities in the 18th century (i.e., pre-vampire movie and fiction days), then I recommend you the following books: Paul Barber's Vampires, Burial, and Death: Folklore and Reality, Jan L. Perkowski's The Darkling: A Treatise on Slavic Vampirism, Alan Dundes (ed.) The Vampire: A Casebook, Bruce A. McClelland's Slayers and Their Vampires: A Cultural History of Killing the Dead and Christopher Frayling's Vampyres: Lord Byron to Count Dracula.
 
For Tony.d

Hi Tony. D
And welcome to this thread (bit of a liberty to take really, as it is not my thread; but I seem to have taken up a lot of unwelcomed space here).

Just to say I absolutely agree with your comments about people - almost always the young - who emulate ‘real’ vampires. I have met many over the years (both socially and at talks I have given on the subject), but I have never considered them to be ‘dangerous’ (a little misguided maybe) or to do any harm to people. They usually meet together socially, dress up in Victorian dress, spout dental caps (‘fangs), discuss books and films, (sometimes even myself!) and generally have a good time. Personally, I can not see anything wrong with that. Good luck to them!

Where the real danger comes in though, is when you come across the odd people who take literally the existence of real blood-sucking vampires, as depicted in Hammer horror films.

It could be argued that that belief is entirely their prerogative, but a further danger comes in if such people spread this belief to gullible people; even to the extent of advising methods to employ for a vampire’s destruction. (Such as how to ‘stake them through the heart’ or what sort of shovel to use to afterwards decapitate them).

Said as a joke, of course, such nonsense would be – and is – laughed at by most normal people. But such remarks have resulted in influencing sick people who go rampaging in graveyards and putting home-made stakes through ordinary corpses.

In this respect, such propaganda about ‘real’ vampires is not only sick, it is depraved. But thankfully, such people are very few and far between, and their remarks only manage to influence a handful of sick people. One finger might be too many, some might argue. And personally, I would agree with that.

David Farrant
 
The Overseer said:
Hi The Vampire,

Funny that, indeed.

Or, I could have read through the threads. Your call. For the record, I am not Sean Manchester, something I'm sure even Mr. Farrant could inform you of. Nor am I a member of any of his other associations.

Are you saying you are not a member of Farrant's forum or that you've not been in personal communication with him?
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Why are you obsessed with this, Mythbuster? No to both questions and you know it. A registration and one message when seeking information, after you attempted to wreck my website, does not make one a rabid member and associate. Are you still a member and crony of The L Word Message Board? If I remember correctly you fancied Max/Moria.

The Overseer said:
I haven't cast out any devils, ever. I don't own a horse. I've read Page's book, though. I own a first edition of it that I purchased off eBay. Never met her though.
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Sure.

How's the lawsuit with Alex Lucard going?
 
For The Vampire

Why are you obsessed with this, Mythbuster? No to both questions and you know it. A registration and one message when seeking information, after you attempted to wreck my website, does not make one a rabid member and associate. Are you still a member and crony of The L Word Message Board? If I remember correctly you fancied Max/Moria.
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I'm not Myth Buster, Manchester or one of their associates. You can accuse me of it all you want, but that doesn't make it true. I guess it is a knee-jerk reaction to your previous dealings with Myth Buster, so it's understandable.

But, nonetheless, I emphatically state that I am neither of the personages mentioned.

You do admit to registering on his forum though. I don't know what you contributed to it, only that you were a member of it (which happens when one registers to a forum in the first place). Have you cancelled your registration? Perhaps you could also link to your contribution on it.

I can hardly have wrecked your website, if I don't even know what it is. I don't even know how to wreck websites. I'm not a hacker, or whatever it is you accuse me of doing.

I didn't accuse you of being a rabid member of anything, however, you do rabidly accuse me of being someone I'm not.

The only link I have to The L Word, was maybe watching a few minutes of it and googling info on the "Uta Refson" character, after coming across it while looking up info on "vampirologists". I've never been a member of its message board, nor do I know who Max/Moira are.

Sure.

How's the lawsuit with Alex Lucard going?
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You'd have to ask Manchester about that. I don't know anything about its progress. I didn't even know a lawsuit was in place until I read through the "Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter" thread (I think it was). The Alex Lucard stuff was linked to on my forum, however. In fact, I had a brief "discussion" relating to it, with a member of the Highgate Vampire Society.
 
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You do admit to registering on his forum though. I don't know what you contributed to it, only that you were a member of it (which happens when one registers to a forum in the first place). Have you cancelled your registration? Perhaps you could also link to your contribution on it.
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Why is this your business? You can visit the forum yourself and read my one introductory post.

Again I must ask why you are obsessed with any (real or imagined) communication with David Farrant on my part? A good investigator tries to speak with all sides when investigating wild claims - in this case a ludicrous claim involving vampires.

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The only link I have to The L Word, was maybe watching a few minutes of it and googling info on the "Uta Refson" character, after coming across it while looking up info on "vampirologists". I've never been a member of its message board, nor do I know who Max/Moira are.
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You should watch it more. What the hell, after this season I'm thinking of opening a club called "Lez Girrrls." Wanna free pass?
 
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Hi DavidFarrant,

Good to see you on this thread again, taking a holiday from the one named in your honour.

You mentioned that:

It could be argued that that belief is entirely their prerogative, but a further danger comes in if such people spread this belief to gullible people; even to the extent of advising methods to employ for a vampire’s destruction. (Such as how to ‘stake them through the heart’ or what sort of shovel to use to afterwards decapitate them).
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Sounds a bit like your "Midnight Date With Highgate's Vampire" with Barrie Simmons for the London Evening News, 16 October 1970:

David, 24, was all set, kitted out with all the gear required by any self-respecting vampire hunter. Clutched under his arm, in a Sainsbury's carrie bag, he held the tools of his trade. There was a cross made out of two bits of wood tied together with a shoelace and a stake to plunge through the heart of the beast. Vampire hunting is a great art. There is no point in just standing around waiting for the monster to appear. It must be stalked. So we stalked. Cross in one hand to ward off the evil spirits, stake in the other, held at the ready. David stalked among the vaults, past the graves, in the bushes and by the walls. When we had finished he started stalking all over again.
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Not to mention your appearance/re-enactment on BBC's 24 Hours, 15 October 1970.

Oh, and your appearance in "Why Do the Foxes Die?" article for the Hampstead & Highgate Express, 6 March 1970:

Tobacconist Mr David Farrant, 24, who reported seeing the ghost last month, returned to the spot last weekend and disovered a dead fox. 'Several other foxes have also been found dead in the cemetery,' he said at his home in Priestwood Mansions, Archway Road, Highgate. 'The odd thing is there was no outward sign of how they died. Much remains unexplained, but what I have recently learnt all points to the vampire theory being the most likely answer. Should this be so, I for one am prepared to pursue it, taking whatever means might be necessary so that we can all rest.' The vampire theory was suggested last week by Mr Sean Manchester, president of the British Occult Society, who believes that 'the King Vampire of the Undead' walks again.
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:p
 
Why is this your business? You can visit the forum yourself and read my one introductory post. Again I must ask why you are obsessed with any (real or imagined) communication with David Farrant on my part? A good investigator tries to speak with all sides when investigating wild claims - in this case a ludicrous claim involving vampires.
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Well, glad you're not referring to me as Myth Buster or Manchester again! :D

I'm not obsessed. Not like it keeps me awake at night or anything. I questioned you on it, didn't I? I think going straight to the source is a good idea too. In this case, that'd be you and previous comments on this thread. In fact, I even asked you for a link to it. I'm not even sure which forum it's on.

You should watch it more. What the hell, after this season I'm thinking of opening a club called "Lez Girrrls." Wanna free pass?
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I don't tend to watch dramatic series all that much. The closest thing to a dramatic show I watch is Neighbours. Other than that, a few sitcoms here and there and other such programming. I don't even watch TV that much. I'm on the 'Net more often!

If the club is located in Australia, then I could take you up on that offer.
 
Ok, I'll bite. The forum in question is DavidFarrant.org It's # 3 on Google, so it's no secret.

I must ask about this:

Funny how your name turns up at such mentions too. How's Dave (he of the "psychic entity") and the gang, by the way?
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Pray, what lead you to this odd conclusion I was associated with Farrant? Upon what evidence? I've tried to stay out of this whole "David Farrant Psychic Investigator" thing. In fact, I cringe and apologize to the admins when the threads bob up to the front page (like corpse in the thawing East River). As I'm fairly well known as the #1 viscous tongued harpy of anti-woo skeptics, I'm perplexed.
 
The Overseer said:
Hi CLD,

It might be an interesting proposition for both concerned, but you'd have to direct it to the actual Bishop. And Farrant. Not me. Though your fetish for this scenario is a tad disconcerting.
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Hey, I'm convinced that the world of TV Wrestling is the right fit for the Farrant/Manchester feud. TV Wrestling has a ready-made audience eager for fantasy-fueled storylines involving personal conflict.
 
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