Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

Only people with no taste email posters about something that can be discussed on the forum. [hint]
 
Cuddles said:
Well, "does not mean that I have not" would normally mean more or less the same as "I have", although I suppose it could be used as a way out to since he doesn't actually say he has, just that he has not said that he has not. It is a bit mealy-mouthed and less affirmative, but I'm fairly sure he means that he has done research. Since he is supposed to be a paranormal investigator I would hope that he at least thinks he has done some research, even if others might dispute it's validity.
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Yes, sorry; you're quite right. I'd call at as evasion rather than outright lying though. You have to remember that a lot of people, woos in particular, just aren't used to thinking at all critically, and so will throw out implicit claims like party favours at first. Mr Farrant is opting for the tactical retreat rather than the aggressively indignant defence, so to me it's quite refreshing and feels as though he's at least taking on board what's being said.
 
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For Lothian and Cuddles,

I don’t know how we got onto this; probably my fault as I seem to remembering question in passing (in relation to something else, in fact) that there might exist more than the five normally accepted senses. I was referring to the five normally accepted senses as related to our normal ‘waking consciousness’ NOT sub-divisions of these same senses (or the millions upon millions of nerve cells that make up our bodies).

I was only pointing out, that mental awareness itself might be an important overlooked sense which might even be termed a 6th one. Without this, or without utilising this, we would not even have the awareness that any other senses exist. That is all I was pointing out. I was not hinting at some previously undiscovered Knowledge (albeit that this fact is so obvious that it often goes unrecognised), only pointing out something that is a part of our very make up.

I was not going to clarify this at all; but I reflected that if I did not do so, it might be construed that I was just making wild allegations without any real meaning.

It is still well off topic here, I’m sorry.

For now,

David
 
Hello,

I am "The Overseer" of the MSN Groups forum being alluded to in post #500 by greenwych. My forum is called Did a Wampyr Walk in Highgate? (you will indeed have to look for it on a search engine, as I am not yet authorised to paste URLs).

I am a former member of The Cross and The Stake, a forum affiliated with the Vampire Research Society. My membership was cancelled shortly after the formation of my own forum.

My own forum isn't really a "parallel investigation", per se, but a discussion board I founded on the Highgate Vampire Case. I make no claims to being an expert on the matter, but established it to ask questions about the Case, and to allow others to do so. A sort of "middle ground", if you will.

I sent out invitations for both members of the Vampire Research Society and the Highgate Vampire Society to join, but only a couple took the call.

One example, was greenwych (a member of the Highgate Vampire Society). A sort of correspondance with her, and her brief postings can be read on my forum (go to the "Messages", then click on "General" and view the "To greenwych (HVS Member): A Response" thread).

greenwych's refusal to divulge the location of the forum and the secrecy surrounding it, most likely has its answer in my "News" section (view the "The Board Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken: A Cover-Up?" thread).

The "B side to the Highgate Vampire" is a reference to the Kirklees Vampire Case, presided over by the Vampire Research Society.
The closest thing to a published, primary source on the Kirklees Case that I am aware of, is an article entitled "The Kirklees Vampire" and written by Sean Manchester himself. It appeared in a British paranormal magazine called The Unexplained, issue 38 (1992).

The tomb referred to in the article is attributed to "Robert Earl of...'". greenwych, however, believes that the tomb is actually that of Robin Hood, England's legendary outlaw hero. Indeed, she has previously attended a special ceremony with a specific intent at the gravesite, which I'm sure she'd be happy to elaborate on here.
 
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For The Overseer

I think you will find, Overseer, that Greenwych no longer posts here.

This post (from myself) is just to say that neither do I!

David Farrant
 
Thank you for the response, DavidFarrant.

Is there any particular reason why neither yourself nor greenwych post here any longer? You certainly deemed it worthy to contribute to in the first place.
 
The Overseer

For The Overseer,

You asked basically why I no longer wanted to post on this thread.

Quite honestly, it is because I am really not interested in Mr. Manchester and his fictional accounts about ‘vampires’. I only posted here in the first place to set the record straight about untrue statements Manchester had posted here in the first place; NOT to enter into any kind of discussion or debate with him.

You should know the nature of these ‘cut and pasted’ accounts (mostly dating back some 35 years or more) as you were once a member of Mr. Manchester’s ‘vampire board’ (which he is still operating despite the fact that you left last year). Before you left, you (that is yourself) were ‘challenging’ me on the Internet, to give you answers to your queries via. Mr. Manchester’s message board (of which you were then still a member).

I refused to give you any answers via. Mr. Manchester’s board, but I offered you the opportunity to join my own where, I said, all your questions could be answered. You refused to do this (and in any event, that offer has since been withdrawn).

The point is ‘Overseer’, I will not now be drawn into this debate again here. If you wish to bring this all up again now (as Big Les remarks upon), I am afraid you will have to do this without my assistance. If other people wish to comment, then they are of course free do so. Personally, I would advise against this as the whole thing has already been ‘played to death’. I am not in a position to tell people what to do. Only to say, that I will not be joining in, in any continuing ‘vampire discussion’.

I just wanted to answer your question as you put this. Greenwych’s position has already been explained to you.

For now,

David Farrant
 
For DavidFarrant

Firstly, thanks Arkan_Wolfshade for clearing matters up a bit. I was not aware that greenwych had been banned from this forum.

Considering the writings I have seen from her, this does not surprise me.

It's a shame she was banned before my posting, especially as she could have had a chance to disclose her own paranormal encounters and relationship to the HVS herself.

Now, as to your response, DavidFarrant.

I find it a bit odd that you claim to not be interested in "Mr. Manchester and his fictional accounts about 'vampires'", considering how much contributions you make to posts discussing him.

If you didn't want to enter into a debate with him, then surely you would have accepted that your "rebukes" would have also been challenged, unless you expected to be taken solely on your word, that is. It's the nature of the beast.

I was indeed a member of Manchester's boards (specifically, The Cross and The Stake, Ecclesia Apostolica Jesu Christi, British Occult Society and Vampire Research Society) before being booted off The Cross and The Stake (and presumably the others too) for starting a "rival forum".

I have not made appeals to renew my membership.

You are also correct in saying that I "challenged" you, as it were, via the means of The Cross and The Stake forum. While you tended to respond via this means (from your own forum), I found that the questions provided, were generally igorned. When I continued to do this via my own, independent forum, you also labelled me with insulting terms.

The "cut and paste" jobs, you refer to, from "35 years ago" I take to mean extracts from news accounts and TV spots, in which you are explicitly linked to claims of vampirism in Highgate Cemetery. You seemingly deny the direct quotes, attributed to yourself, and also now maintain that you have never believed that a vampire haunted Highgate Cemetery.
You instead believe it was haunted by a "psychic entity" with "hypnotic red eyes" that "seemed to exude an impression of intense evil". You claim that you were arrested while in the midst of trying to contact this entity via seance.

While you ridicule the existence of vampires, you certainly put an interesting - but no less supernatural - spin on the phenomena, as can be seen in your response to the question, "What aspects of vampirism interest you most? What is your concept of a vampire?" in your "Interview With the Vampire Hunter" for Bite Me magazine (reproduced under the "Interviews" section of your homepage).

Your offer to join your forum (which was later revoked), was refused by myself, because of the evasiveness of the answers supplied in the first place, as well as my worry of being banned from The Cross and The Stake (though I am not sure this is official C&S policy) for joining your opposing forum. That is part of the reason why I formed my own. As it turned out, it lead to my banning anway!

Whether you chose to respond to this, is of course, up to you. But if not, then I see your "tactical retreat" is being carried out elsewhere, in this case, the "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread.
 
Good Try Overseer!

Good try, Overseer!

But your manipulations will not work. I will simply not be drawn into discussing Mr. Manchester with you here – or anywhere else.

You are right that I am discussing psychic phenomena on the other thread “David Farrant – Psychic Investigator that somebody else started for me here. But you will find no discussion about Mr. Manchester or his claims about vampires there. Indeed, that is why I stayed there!

You would, I imagine, be quite welcome to post on that, but only if your questions relate to the topic in general. But as you appear obsessed in pursuing this Highgate ‘vampire’ angle, I would think there would be little chance of that. I have already explained there that I do not accept the existence of ‘blood-sucking vampires’. I would only give you the same answer so, honestly, that would really be a waste of everybody’s time – including my own!

If you really want to believe that I think ‘vampires’ are real, you will just keep having to believe it if that makes you happy. After all, its your mind, and you can think what you want!

But for now,

David
 
Overseer, you might be interested in reading the thread named after David on this forum. He apparently now claims that he does not believe in vampires and never did, that he has never claimed to have believed in them and that he has never claimed to believe in anything paranormal at all, despite his own posts in that thread in which he clearly states that he does. It would be interesting if you have any evidence of other things he has claimed that he can now spend hours running in circles trying to deny.
 
For Cuddles and DavidFarrant

Hi Cuddles (cute avatar, by the way),

I'm way ahead of you there. I had a read through the "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread and made my own contribution to it, via repsonse #263.

As to your request for other statements, I humbly point you in the direction of the "Interviews" section of his hompage (which you'll have to google, until I am allowed to post URLs). The most comprehensive replies he has on the subject of vampires, can be found in his "Interview With the Vampire Hunter" for Bite Me magazine. This includes such notable responses as:
I have frequently said in the past that this sort of vampire is pure fiction. But this does not mean, however, there there do not exist psychic entities that take on vampire-like characteristics [...]
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In regards to parapsychological method, you can also find his statement, in response to being asked, "Do you get criticised for investigating the paranormal by using magic?" in his interview with The X Factor, also reproduced on the same page.

Hi DavidFarrant,

If I am employing manipulations against you, they are obviously working, as you are still responding after having your "final word".

Oddly, you also indicate that I am trying to initiate some kind of discussion with you about Mr. Manchester. I'm not. I'm discussing your own claims/posts, along with observations on them. Which is why I have been addressing items you've posted.

The subject isn't really about the existence of vampires either. I don't recall raising it as a topic. Either way, I hope you can answer my questions on reply #263 in the "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread.

Cheers.
 
I feel this longstanding feud should be laid to rest once and for all in a widely-publicized, pay-per-view, TV jello wrestling grudge match between Farrant and Manchester entitled "Battle Of The Vampire Hunters".
 
Oh, I think if some real money were on the table, they'd don the bikinis and feathers in a flash. Whether or not someone would watch is another matter.
 
JJordan said:
Vampires? There are people who actually believe in vampires? ;-/
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Ah, young JJordan, shield thy innocent eyes from this thread, lest ye be driven insane by the rantings of the mad bishop.
 
Hey, everybody, after I came back from some errands, there was this blond young woman lurking around the house carrying a bag of sharpened dowels. She was really up beat, appologized for tesspassing, said I had nothing to worry about but that I should probably not open the door after dark.

Is there a connection? Am I in danger? Stay tuned!

(I'm not usually sarcastic, but really...vampires?)
 
I think Manchester and Farrant ought to team up with Jonathon the Impaler Sharkey, L.D.D.D., Ph.D., self-proclaimed "Sanguinary Satanic Vampyre, and Hecate Witch" who ran for Governor of Minnesota in 2006 as a member of the VWP Party.
 
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