Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

Do not despair; do not dwell on the negative side of any situation, for you will do no good by this. Always put into operation the forces of construction. Believe that good will come, that the best Is coming, and it will. We shall never forsake you. We also are God's children and his agents. We shall never forsake you, dear brothers.

White Eagle, spirit guide of the late medium Grace Cook.
 
Scorpion said:
"Individual animals are predated and die, but the struggle to survive forces evolution in both predator and prey. The result is all the wonderful animal species we see in the world today. Suffering and pain is forgotten, but life goes on to greater heights."
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'fraid not. Evolution doesn't go anywhere other than in response to selective pressures on individuals in the present. Cheetahs of today might be a shade faster (or slower or larger or smaller or differently patterned or whatever) than cheetahs from 10,000 years ago, but they struggle to survive no less.
 
Never concentrate on disease or darkness; concentrate on harmony, light. Centre your whole thought upon the spirit of the Lord Christ, the gentle master, then the weariness of the flesh will fall away from you because by your own inner effort you are transmuting those dark atoms into light. If you could live always in the light you would need no healing from outside- the light itself would heal you.

White Eagle, spirit guide of the late medium Grace Cook.
 
We know, beloved child, the sorrows and difficulties of the material life lived in a physical body as present unawakened to the beauty of God's worlds. We know how hard it is to pursue the shadowed path. You have to walk in darkness, to accept the conditions in which you find yourselves, trusting in the love of the Great White Spirit. This is not easy, we know, but have patience and faith. Never doubt that all works together for good; Never doubt the power the wisdom and the love of God.

White Eagle, spirit guide of the late medium Grace Cook.
 
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White Eagle? I presume he's a Native American spirit guide? Of a pasty white middle aged woman?

Edit - wait, White Eagle is a christian?!
 
"Try to keep a positive attitude, even when things look bleak."

There. I just gave you the same advice for free.
~Spiritual Healer, The Shrike
 
The spirit guide of native tribes evolved with exposure to missionary types. How Grace Cook fits is probably just opportunistic.
 
Scorpion said:
Never concentrate on disease or darkness; concentrate on harmony, light. Centre your whole thought upon the spirit of the Lord Christ, the gentle master, then the weariness of the flesh will fall away from you because by your own inner effort you are transmuting those dark atoms into light. If you could live always in the light you would need no healing from outside- the light itself would heal you.
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Scorpion said:
We know, beloved child, the sorrows and difficulties of the material life lived in a physical body as present unawakened to the beauty of God's worlds. We know how hard it is to pursue the shadowed path. You have to walk in darkness, to accept the conditions in which you find yourselves, trusting in the love of the Great White Spirit. This is not easy, we know, but have patience and faith. Never doubt that all works together for good; Never doubt the power the wisdom and the love of God.
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Two nonsense statements that basically say that you are yourself responsible for your problems, because all you need to be healed is more faith, and more love of the God, or Lord Christ that has designed the pain in the first place.

All very wise words! :p
 
Scorpion said:
Never concentrate on disease or darkness; concentrate on harmony, light. Centre your whole thought upon the spirit of the Lord Christ, the gentle master, then the weariness of the flesh will fall away from you because by your own inner effort you are transmuting those dark atoms into light. If you could live always in the light you would need no healing from outside- the light itself would heal you.



White Eagle, spirit guide of the late medium Grace Cook.
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And you add another strand to your spiritual philosophy, it now not only needs people to suffer you shouldn't even think about people who are suffering!

Nice.
 
Scorpion said:
Do not despair; do not dwell on the negative side of any situation, for you will do no good by this. Always put into operation the forces of construction. Believe that good will come, that the best Is coming, and it will. We shall never forsake you. We also are God's children and his agents. We shall never forsake you, dear brothers.

White Eagle, spirit guide of the late medium Grace Cook.
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Scorpion said:
Never concentrate on disease or darkness; concentrate on harmony, light. Centre your whole thought upon the spirit of the Lord Christ, the gentle master, then the weariness of the flesh will fall away from you because by your own inner effort you are transmuting those dark atoms into light. If you could live always in the light you would need no healing from outside- the light itself would heal you.

White Eagle, spirit guide of the late medium Grace Cook.
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Scorpion said:
We know, beloved child, the sorrows and difficulties of the material life lived in a physical body as present unawakened to the beauty of God's worlds. We know how hard it is to pursue the shadowed path. You have to walk in darkness, to accept the conditions in which you find yourselves, trusting in the love of the Great White Spirit. This is not easy, we know, but have patience and faith. Never doubt that all works together for good; Never doubt the power the wisdom and the love of God.

White Eagle, spirit guide of the late medium Grace Cook.
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Is this the same White Eagle who you denounced as a fraud? Whose books you either sold or threw away?
Why on earth would anyone listen to him? Even you don't believe in him.

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I threw out a series of books by White Eagle lodge because a book said there were people on Mars, The book was written before the NASA space probes that prove there is no life on Mars, so I do not see how anyone could have incarnated there.
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Cosmic Yak said:
Is this the same White Eagle who you denounced as a fraud? Whose books you either sold or threw away?
Why on earth would anyone listen to him? Even you don't believe in him.
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Yes, I did sell all the other books, save the one small volume I quoted.

I find it difficult to dismiss all White Eagles teachings as fraud, but I have to admit it is probably the case. It is not easy to accept that as I spent some time in White Eagle lodge, both the London church and the purpose built temple in Hampshire.

But I stand corrected, and will not post any more White Eagle teachings.
 
You know, if everything written in books is things human beings thought up, as seems likely to be the case, there's no need to discard any book just because it turns out to be things a human being thought up.
 
Just found this statement from White Eagle which might explain how an untruth might have slipped through into his teachings.

" “We come to you under the name of White Eagle, but would explain that we speak for a large company of shining beings, angels and illumined souls of men and women who are sometimes referred to as the Star Brotherhood"

But in general I have to admit that one of the White Eagle books contains the statement there are people on Venus and Mars. This book was doubtlessly an early work as the White Eagle lodge was founded in 1936. This was long before the NASA space probes of the 1960's.

It is a shame to have to say this statement discredits the entire works of the White Eagle lodge. It is a very inspiring and uplifting place. But promoting the truth is more important than preserving this organisation.
 
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Just found this statement from White Eagle which might explain how an untruth might have slipped through into his teachings.
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Cognitive dissonance of having been taken but not wanting to admit it leads to one of the great euphemisms in human language. Bravo.


Here's an even better explanation: lying to bilk money out of people looking for things like guidance, answers, and healing.


Scorpion said:
But in general I have to admit that one of the White Eagle books contains the statement there are people on Venus and Mars. This book was doubtlessly an early work as the White Eagle lodge was founded in 1936. This was long before the NASA space probes of the 1960's.
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If you needed space probes to reveal to you that there were no people on Venus or Mars then you were exactly the sort of credulous being these people sought to victimize.

Scorpion said:
It is a very inspiring and uplifting place.
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Of course it is. They tell their followers what they want to hear.
 
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Cognitive dissonance of having been taken but not wanting to admit it leads to one of the great euphemisms in human language. Bravo.
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Not just that. Scorpion is attempting to reconcile two completely contradictory beliefs:
1. White Eagle is really the ghost of a dead Native American being channeled though a medium. ("His teachings", meaning White Eagle, not the female medium who claimed to be channelling him).
2. White Eagle is a fraud, based on his imparting supposed knowledge that was untrue, and which he should have known was untrue.

That must hurt.
 
There's a quote attributed to Mark Twain that always come to mind when I read this thread: It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
 
I maintain, it is possible that a deceiving spirit spoke to, or through Grace Cooke in her early years. I found a quote, that I posted above that White Eagle is not one individual, but a large group of spirits using that name.

It is hard for me to write the whole thing off as bogus, and in fact White Eagle lodge has grown into a world wide organisation. But I will not quote any more of the teachings.
 
The Shrike said:
If you needed space probes to reveal to you that there were no people on Venus or Mars then you were exactly the sort of credulous being these people sought to victimize.
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No at all, when I was a boy there were many theories about Mars having canals for irrigation. Venus was even more mysterious being covered in clouds.
Nobody knew the hostile conditions on Venus until the Russian probes were destroyed as soon as they landed. They built tougher probes that could survive the heat and acid longer, before there were any pictures of Venus surface.
 
Scorpion said:
I maintain, it is possible that a deceiving spirit spoke to, or through Grace Cooke in her early years. I found a quote, that I posted above that White Eagle is not one individual, but a large group of spirits using that name.

It is hard for me to write the whole thing off as bogus, and in fact White Eagle lodge has grown into a world wide organisation. But I will not quote any more of the teachings.
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So Grace Cooke is not a fraud, its the lying spirits.

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