Science: Wonders, causality and the indeterminable

It's clear that someone still has no idea what "science" is, despite having it repeatedly explained to them. Also, calling it "holy science" just makes you look like an even bigger idiot. Again.
 
Jonesboy said:
How am I supposed to know if your canoe floats!
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You're supposed to use common sense, because you say there's no such thing as science. If common sense can't answer my question, and there's no such thing as science, then how is it that I know the answer, which we all rely on to be correct millions of times a second?

Dave
 
quarky said:
I''m about as philosophical as it normally gets around here, for a guy that has synthesized novel compounds. This new kid on the block is a bit too aggressive in his philosophy, even for my pathetically open mind.

He's been dumping gobs of presumptuous, pre-emptive posts, challenging the most innocent aspects of the scientific method. I smell an agenda.

I like me better, frankly. When I raise a point from left field, I don't have an agenda, other than a desire for intelligent dialog.

So, Jonesboy?

What's up with your thang?

Can we talk?
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Philosophy, like science, is a form of honest inquiry. This is at best pseudo-philosophy to support the OP's worldview, or perhaps trolling for attention, perhaps both.
 
Dancing David said:
Ah yes the method of exterminating women and seizing their property, torture to force confessions and wars. Great method there.

the pope is infallible , what?

And your evidence is still lacking
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So you think religion is *ONLY* evils, or mostly evils and only a few, few goods?!
 
Jonesboy said:
Thats looks like a cult statement. It subordinates natural ways to hood and cloister. Not surprising though. Science is a cult. It has no method, technology or practices other than ribbing its misbegotten rivals like the creationists. Science has many believers, even though nothing goes on in science.
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Argument from ignorance.

"I have no idea what goes on in science, so nothing goes on in science,"

Very good.

Hans
 
Jonesboy said:
As for the myth of Science, myth is right, for there was never a time when we didn't do things methodically.
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So, when we were still blue green algae, we did what methodically. Bear in mind that "method" implies cognitiion.

What's more, you seem to think that science merely involves method, any method. That, of course, is pure quackery, codswallop, and humbug, because the scientific method is a SPECIFIC method.

In particular, in order for a theory to enter the realm of science, it has to be testable (which is to say one has to have a way to test if the theory does not work, in specific, another term for which is falsifiable), it must be verifiable (i.e. others can repeat the test), and it must be reliable (the test does the same thing over and over, within understood noise limits).
 
Jonesboy said:
Here is a chance for us to raise our heads above this suffocating, sycophantous gloop that we call Science. Reject the idea that wonders are shown by science. Wonders are no more shown by a science than they are by a ladder, or a door, or a bus ticket to see the elephants.
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Oh, it is the term 'wonders' that bother you? No problem; 'wonders of science' is an entirely unscientific hype expression, used by an enthusiastic press and the occasional excited scientist. Scientists are, after all, nothing but humans. And, admittedly, press people mostly too.

It is our natural commonsense, our methodical nature, our conceptions, that build a technical world.
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And those are basically the constituents of science.

The rest is flag-waving.
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Well, of course. Of all people, you should appreciate flag-waving, since that seems to be all you do.

Hans
 
mike3 said:
So you think religion is *ONLY* evils, or mostly evils and only a few, few goods?!
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No, you are projecting. Read in the context of the response to the op.

Seriously, read some around the forum before you get all het up.

:)

Reread and tell me where I made such absolute statement in context:

Dancing David said:
Jonesboy said:
Crafts were passed down. Not science. This science myth becomes boring, very very quickly. We ALWAYS could do things methodically. Even our church was the bastion of method. Science was a breakaway movement.
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Ah yes the method of exterminating women and seizing their property, torture to force confessions and wars. Great method there.

the pope is infallible , what?

And your evidence is still lacking
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Mashuna said:
If you ignore a person, there's an option to also ignore all threads started by that person - this will mean that they don't show up for you at all.
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Thanks for the response. I tried that but there was no option about threads started.
 
Dikken said:
Thanks for the response. I tried that but there was no option about threads started.
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Try this:

  1. User Control Panel
  2. Settings & Options
  3. Edit Options
  4. Thread Display Options
  5. Hide threads by Members on your Ignore List
Setting this to "Yes" will completely hide any threads started by any Member(s) you have placed on your ignore list. (Links to hidden threads will still work and they will still appear in any searches.)
 
catsmate1 said:
Try this:

  1. User Control Panel
  2. Settings & Options
  3. Edit Options
  4. Thread Display Options
  5. Hide threads by Members on your Ignore List
Setting this to "Yes" will completely hide any threads started by any Member(s) you have placed on your ignore list. (Links to hidden threads will still work and they will still appear in any searches.)
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Thanks, that seems to have worked!
 
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