DevilsAdvocate
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Not many people would care about such an idiot. And we can only know what would happen IF you provide reasons for there being good scientific evidence of a flood. Perhaps you think that you have. You have not.If I provide a time consuming set of reasons for there being good scientific evidence of a flood, which from the start bores me to tears and I couldn't possibly care less about, only so some idiot who knows nothing about science and nothing about the Bible can respond to it saying "David Henson knows absolutely nothing about science, I suggest you ignore him."
I have read the thread you started on the subject. I took notes. Some of your posts were perhaps time consuming. You provided 63 posts in a 12-page thread. But you did not provide one single shred of (even questionable) evidence for a global flood.
You provided some interpretation on the flood story. You provided an abundance of quotes and information about some matters of history. You questioned the accuracy of some scientific procedures (such as radiocarbon dating). You asked questions about the thermosphere and mountain creation.
But you did not, in the entire thread, provide a single piece of evidence of a global flood.
Here are my notes (I used “off topic” for any off topic, irrelevant, or inconsequential posts):
No evidence supporting a global flood was presented. Many questions that would support that there was no flood were never addressed.POST 7: Addresses questions about water volume and area. REPLY: 22 ft., global
POST 19: Addresses questions about how animals survived, what they ate, how they traveled back to their native lands. REPLY: Ark needed to contain only 43 kinds of mammals, 74 kinds of birds, and 10 kinds of reptiles. 1650 species. Ark had enough room and food.
POST 25: Addresses statement about Gilgamesh. REPLY: Biblical flood was 2370 BC. Gilgamesh (Akkadian versions) written 1900 BC.
POST 37: Comment about skeptical dogma.
POST 39: Addresses where water came from and went. REPLY: Canopy of water vapor that surrounded the earth. Water stayed on earth.
POST 48: Comment about poster.
POST 52: Addresses evidence that would disprove flood. REPLY: None. Would have to transcend the boundaries of the skeptical arena.
POST 118: Addresses no sign of flood on pyramids, Egyptians before and after flood. RELPY: Egyptian civilization began after flood (2370 BC) based on evidence that some dates related to ancient Egyptian history may not be precise.
POST 121: Addresses historical dates. REPLY: Difference between cardinal and ordinal numbers. No zero year. Some historical dates. Some more historical dates (appear to be unrelated to claim in post 118 that Egyptian civilization began after 2370 BC). Evidence of Exodus. Evidence about dates related to King Herod. Information about Egyptian dynasties. Information about Gregorian and Julian calendars.
POST 129: Addresses radiocarbon dating of Egyptian artifacts and architecture. REPLY: What are the results and what are the margins of error?
POST 130: Addresses that flood was local and was written as “world” due to writer’s not knowing extent of whole world. REPLY: You can’t do that. It doesn’t fit.
POST 131: Addresses discarding known, proven dates in history. REPLY: Facts were provided. No evidence provided to prove facts wrong.
POST 134: Addresses concerns of copy and paste. REPLY: Copied from own post on other site.
POST 136: Addresses link to wiki Egyptian history. REPLY: Write your own stuff. Don’t have time to read wiki articles.
POST 138: Addresses claim material taken from Watchtower. REPLY: Was not.
POST 141: Off topic (Is God good?)
POST 142: Off topic.
POST 145: Addresses question of date of Egyptian civilization. REPLY: Evidence already provided.
POST 148: Addresses question of date of Egyptian civilization. REPLY: Evidence already provided.
POST 203: Addresses comparison to Star Trek mythology. RELPY: Science dismisses Bible based on bias/belief.
POST 232: Addresses how Nephilim in Genesis survived to be mentioned in Numbers. REPLY: Nephilim did perish in flood. Account in Numbers falsely claimed “Nephilim” to cause fear.
POST 234: Bible chronology.
POST 244: Off topic.
POST 254: Addresses 10 reptile kinds evolving/turning into 8000 species. REPLY: Asks for reference. Human footprints in dinosaur footprints (debunked). Don’t know if dinosaurs existed when humans did. Bible mentions behemoth.
POST 271: Addresses suggestion to learn more about science. REPLY: I asked for questions and just got good posts, good questions, wikipedia links, and graphs. No response to radiocarbon objections. Evidence about evolution and mutations.
POST 273: Off topic.
POST 311: Off topic (Star of Bethlehem).
POST 315:Addresses Bible or Science as truth. REPLY: Start this thread.
POST 327: Will answer all unanswered questions.
POST 328: Addresses questions about water volume and area. REPLY: 22 ft., global. (same as POST 7).
POST 330: Addresses flood as fiction. REPLY: Asks for evidence Bible flood is fiction. Skeptics/Atheists have preconceived notions and ignore evidence. Asks for evidence science has on Biblical deluge.
POST 335: Addresses water covering earth. REPLY: Earth could have been flatter with lower mountains. Evidence that over millions of years some places on earth that were once flat now have mountains.
POST 336: Question about Gilgamesh reference.
POST 337: Addresses question about flat earth. REPLY: Asks for evidence that it is not possible. Again gives evidence that over millions of years some places on earth that were once flat now have mountains. Information on sea levels (not relevant).
POST 338: Off topic.
POST 340: Addresses that flood was only 20 feet. REPLY: Flatter earth. Again gives evidence that over millions of years some places on earth that were once flat now have mountains. Information on sea levels (not relevant).
POST 342: Off topic.
POST 343: Addresses mountains rising thousands of feet in a few hundred years. REPLY: Asks why mountains would have had to rise thousands of feet in a few hundred years.
POST 346: Specifies thread is about Bible flood.
POST 359: Addresses when flood occurred. REPLY: 2370 BC. Questions accuracy of scientific methods of dating millions of years.
POST 367: Address elevation in Colorado. REPLY: 300-6800 feet. May have been much lower at time of flood.
POST 370: Addresses how host-specific diseases would have survived flood. REPLY: Asks how host-specific diseases normally survive.
POST 374: Address how flood of 22 feet could have flooded area at 300 feet. REPLY: Asks if there has to be 300 feet of floodwater to flood an area at 300 feet.
POST 390: Off topic.
POST 391: Addresses reply that how host-specific diseases survive in their specific hosts. REPLY: Asks why ask how they would survive.
POST 400: Addresses that world could not have been flatter at time of flood because of how mountains form. REPLY: Asks how mountains form.
POST 401: Addresses question about how fast tectonic plates move. REPLY: Asks why the question is relevant.
POST 405: Addresses eridu genesis. REPLY Asks when oldest flood account and Bible account were written.
POST 406: Addresses that thermosphere is practically a vacuum. REPLY: Asks if thermosphere has air or gasses.
POST 411: Addresses explanation of how mountains are formed. REPLY: Asks how glaciers affect the earth and how the effects are distinguishable from a local flood. Mentions that dinosaur fossils are often recovered from water-laid sedimentary rock.
POST 412: Addresses that thermosphere is essentially a vacuum. REPLY: Asks if thermosphere has gas, air, dust, or debris.
POST 419: Addresses link to how mountains are formed. REPLY: Says wrote own info on history, but only gets link on how mountains are formed.
POST 421: Addresses that thermosphere doesn’t have enough gas, dust and debris to cause a flood. REPLY: Agrees there isn’t enough now. Asks why Moses and Peter would have said that there were.
POST423: Off topic.
POST 425: Addresses that thermosphere doesn’t have enough gas, dust and debris to create enough pressure to cause a flood. REPLY: Asks how much it would take.
POST 427: Off topic (Biblical chronology).
POST 428: Off topic.
POST 436: Addresses that most people in BC didn’t read/write. REPLY: Iron tools, musical instruments, tablets, predated flood.
POST 444: Off topic.
POST 445: Off topic.
POST 448: Off topic.
POST 450: Off topic.
POST 460: Off topic.
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