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Science Disproves Evolution

Pahu said:
What you refer to as drivel are conclusions by a scientist (Walt Brown) based on known laws of physics confirmed by other scientists, such as:


Scott Tremaine, David Stevenson, William R. Ward, Robin M. Canup, Fred Hoyle, Michael J. Drake, Kevin Righter, George W. Wetherill, Richard A. Kerr, Luke Dones, B. Zuckerman, Renu Malhotra, David W. Hughes, M. Mitchell Waldrop, Larry W. Esposito, Shigeru Ida, Jack J. Lissauer, Charles Petit, P. Lamy, L. F. Miranda, Rob Rye, William R. Kuhn, Carl Sagan, Christopher Chyba, Stephen W. Hawking, Don N. Page, Huw Price, Peter Coles, Jayant V. Narlikar, Edward R. Harrison, Govert Schilling, Eric J. Lerner, Francesco Sylos Labini, Marcus Chown, Adam Riess, James Glanz, Mark Sincell, John Travis, Will Saunders, H. C. Arp, Gerard Gilmore, Geoffrey R. Burbidge, Ben Patrusky, Bernard Carr, Robert Irion, Alan H. Guth, Alexander Hellemans, Robert Matthews, M. Hattori, Lennox L. Cowie, Antoinette Songaila, Chandra Wickramasinghe, A. R. King, M. G. Watson, Charles J. Lada, Frank H. Shu, Martin Harwit, Michael Rowan-Robinson, P. J. E. Peebles, Joseph Silk, Margaret J. Geller, John P. Huchra, Larry Azar, J. E. O’Rourke, Peter Forey, J. L. B. Smith, Bryan Sykes, Edward M. Golenberg, Jeremy Cherfas, Scott R. Woodward, Virginia Morell, Hendrick N. Poinar, Rob DeSalle, Raúl J. Cano, Tomas Lindahl, George O. Poinar, Jr., Monica K. Borucki, Joshua Fischman, John Parkes, Russell H. Vreeland, Gerard Muyzer, Robert V. Gentry, Jeffrey S. Wicken, Henry R. Schoolcraft, Thomas H. Benton, etc.

The above scientists were quoted from the following peer review science journals:

American journal of science
Astronomical journal
Astrophysics and space science
Astrophysical journal
Bioscience
Geology
Icarus
Journal of Theoretical Biology
Nature
New scientist
Physical review
Physical review d
Physical review letters
Science
Space science reviews
The American Journal of Science and Arts
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Giggywig said:
This is called an appeal to authority.
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Pahu said:
What do you have against authority? Do you prefer ignorant opinions?
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Well, okay, if that's the approach you want to take, here is a partial list of scientists who believe the evidence strongly supports evolution. And that's just the ones named "Steve."
 
Pahu said:
What do you have against authority? Do you prefer ignorant opinions?
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I've nothing against authority, but blind reliance on authorities is a fallacy. Everyone makes mistakes, and even in their areas of expertise, people can be wrong.
Rather than relying on authority, I try to learn enough about a subject so I can make a rational determination of whether or not someone is likely to be knowledgeable or just blowing it from a sphincter.

I've never thought it would be a great idea to jump off a cliff just because I saw a lemming do it.

The links are where the facts are. Why are facts a reason for ridicule?
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If the facts were where your links are, you would presumably be familiar with them and be able to argue your points rationally instead of handwaving.
 
I've run in to this guy quite a few times on other forums. Researching the quotes cited to support some of this trash can be quite amusing. It's apparent someone went to a lot of trouble to get his out of context quotes. Also apparent is that no honest person could have failed to notice that the context when doing the quote mining.

Pahu has admitted that he doesn't read the quotes he cites in their original context. Got to wonder about the mindset of someone who won't check his facts after hundreds and hundreds of people have pointed out wrong they are.
 
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Gawdzilla said:
I live in Missouri. I've developed a tolerance for stupid that you wouldn't believe. (My next door neighbor called the cops because his "smokeables" had been stolen.)
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Someone stole his pork products? The humanity!
 
Pahu said:
What you refer to as drivel are conclusions by a scientist (Walt Brown) based on known laws of physics confirmed by other scientists, such as:


Scott Tremaine, David Stevenson, William R. Ward, Robin M. Canup, Fred Hoyle, Michael J. Drake, Kevin Righter, George W. Wetherill, Richard A. Kerr, Luke Dones, B. Zuckerman, Renu Malhotra, David W. Hughes, M. Mitchell Waldrop, Larry W. Esposito, Shigeru Ida, Jack J. Lissauer, Charles Petit, P. Lamy, L. F. Miranda, Rob Rye, William R. Kuhn, Carl Sagan, Christopher Chyba, Stephen W. Hawking, Don N. Page, Huw Price, Peter Coles, Jayant V. Narlikar, Edward R. Harrison, Govert Schilling, Eric J. Lerner, Francesco Sylos Labini, Marcus Chown, Adam Riess, James Glanz, Mark Sincell, John Travis, Will Saunders, H. C. Arp, Gerard Gilmore, Geoffrey R. Burbidge, Ben Patrusky, Bernard Carr, Robert Irion, Alan H. Guth, Alexander Hellemans, Robert Matthews, M. Hattori, Lennox L. Cowie, Antoinette Songaila, Chandra Wickramasinghe, A. R. King, M. G. Watson, Charles J. Lada, Frank H. Shu, Martin Harwit, Michael Rowan-Robinson, P. J. E. Peebles, Joseph Silk, Margaret J. Geller, John P. Huchra, Larry Azar, J. E. O’Rourke, Peter Forey, J. L. B. Smith, Bryan Sykes, Edward M. Golenberg, Jeremy Cherfas, Scott R. Woodward, Virginia Morell, Hendrick N. Poinar, Rob DeSalle, Raúl J. Cano, Tomas Lindahl, George O. Poinar, Jr., Monica K. Borucki, Joshua Fischman, John Parkes, Russell H. Vreeland, Gerard Muyzer, Robert V. Gentry, Jeffrey S. Wicken, Henry R. Schoolcraft, Thomas H. Benton, etc.

The above scientists were quoted from the following peer review science journals:

American journal of science
Astronomical journal
Astrophysics and space science
Astrophysical journal
Bioscience
Geology
Icarus
Journal of Theoretical Biology
Nature
New scientist
Physical review
Physical review d
Physical review letters
Science
Space science reviews
The American Journal of Science and Arts
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And you are acquainted, I presume with Project Steve?
It is a group of over 1100 scientists who deny creationism and biblical versions of science. The kicker? They're all named Steve, Steven, Stephan or some variation of "Steve". If you're trying to impress us with your thimbleful of scientists, you have failed horribly. Embarassingly.
 
On the flood thing.

I've been to one of those mystery spots where water runs uphill. So all you'd need is whatever causes that only more.

I don't know about the limestone though. It's compressed sea critters? So it's full of eyeballs and stalky appendages?
 
Pahu said:
Why do you think it was stolen? Here is his quote: “Any portion of this book may be reproduced for teaching or classroom use. 
For all other uses, simply reference this book and Walt Brown as your source.
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You aren't using it for teaching or classroom use and you didn't reference the book or Walt Brown as your source
Pahu said:
I am not allowed to include the link for this quote or the information I shared, most of which was snipped by someone who apparently does not want you to know the whole truth..
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It was snipped by a moderator as you had blatantly broken the copyright rules of this forum
Pahu said:
P.S. I had to remove your link to give you this answer.
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No you didn't
:rolleyes:
 
marplots said:
On the flood thing.

I've been to one of those mystery spots where water runs uphill. So all you'd need is whatever causes that only more.

I don't know about the limestone though. It's compressed sea critters? So it's full of eyeballs and stalky appendages?
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what? there is no place on this planet where water runs uphill.
there are however some spots were it looks like things flow or roll uphill, but actually are rolling/flowing downhill.
 
marplots said:
I don't know about the limestone though. It's compressed sea critters? So it's full of eyeballs and stalky appendages?
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More properly it's composed of the skeletons of tiny creatures.

Wiki says:

Limestone is a sedimentary rock composed largely of the minerals calcite and/or aragonite, which are different crystal forms of calcium carbonate (CaCO3). Like most other sedimentary rocks, limestones are composed of grains; however, most grains in limestone are skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral or foraminifera. Other carbonate grains comprising limestones are ooids, peloids, intraclasts, and extraclasts. Some limestones do not consist of grains at all and are formed completely by the chemical precipitation of calcite or aragonite. i.e. travertine.
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Pahu said:
That link takes you to the home page where you can then click onto the Part II link I recommended.

Thanks for your opinions. I disagree, not because I am a scientist, but because Walt Brown is and he bases his conclusions on known laws of physics, confirmed by other scientists, some of whom he quotes.

I have shared the facts of science that disprove evolution on several websites, as some of my respondents have pointed out, and I am well aquatinted with the kind of mockery you predict, along with denial, name calling, cursing, foul language, false accusations, etc., which they consider to be refutation. That just goes with the territory, and I am used to it, from those unwilling to accept facts that threaten what they want to believe.
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And so far many have discussed the facts you presented and why the evidence does not agree with the theory you presented.

the continental crust floats on top of the lithosphere.
Did you understand that?
 
Pahu said:
What do you have against authority? Do you prefer ignorant opinions?
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Welcome to the JREF Pahu, here we discuss the merits of ideas and theories and examine the basis of support for them. That is critical thinking, so here 'appeal to authority' is a fallacy of argumentation, you should know the ideas and try to defend them.
 
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