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Science Denial

Gullible 9/11 truth believers try again, and fail

tanabear said:
Kim Iversen, formerly a reporter for The Hill on their popular web show, The Rising, interviewed Ted Walter on the collapse of World Trade Towers 1,2 and 7 on 9/11. Ted Walter had been with AE911Truth for quite a few years. He left to start his own organization, the International Center for 9/11 Justice.

It is good to see 9/11 Truth receiving some mainstream coverage.

Watch the interview here.

https://rumble.com/v2xyjcg-july-3-2023.html
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Do you believe this claptrap, or what?
Did you hit the "Donate" button for the "International Center for 9/11 Justice"? How much does Ted make for spreading delusional claims about 9/11? Have you figured out 9/11 yet? No? When will you figure out there is no "Stunning Evidence"?

Did she get fired for being a conspiracy theorist from The Hill? She is fooled by Ted Walter. Why is Ted Walter unable to figure out 9/11 after all these years? Oh, Is it because he can't comprehend fire science, physics, structural engineering? Why is he so wrong?

Here is your chance... You can take the Stunning Evidence from The Shocking Truth About WTC 7 and The Twin Towers: Stunning Evidence Of Controlled Demolition Interview and earn the biggest Pulitzer Prize since Watergate exposed.

Where is the Stunning Evidence? People who believe Ted, have to have great skills at being gullible.

Darn, no Pulitzer Prize for you, there is no "Stunning Evidence", Just talk of stunning evidence.

What was the "Stunning Evidence"? :rolleyes:

This video is not "mainstream coverage", it is woo covering woo.

#lotsofwoo
 
In defence of Rumble..

I find it preferable to the censorship and bias algorithm of Youtube these days.. even my debunking videos on Youtube are shadow-banned now because they relate to '9/11 conspiracy theories'... It's hard to find anything 9/11 related on google/youtube these days because all the top results are 'reputable' sources like CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc etc etc.. frustrates the living hell out of me trying to find material.

Rumble, on the other-hand has no such bollocks.. so whilst it has become attritive to conspiratoid believers and far-right, I honestly prefer that to outright censorship and manipulation. Let the truth stand on it's own merit.
 
cjnewson88 said:
In defence of Rumble..

I find it preferable to the censorship and bias algorithm of Youtube these days.. even my debunking videos on Youtube are shadow-banned now because they relate to '9/11 conspiracy theories'... It's hard to find anything 9/11 related on google/youtube these days because all the top results are 'reputable' sources like CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc etc etc.. frustrates the living hell out of me trying to find material.

Rumble, on the other-hand has no such bollocks.. so whilst it has become attritive to conspiratoid believers and far-right, I honestly prefer that to outright censorship and manipulation. Let the truth stand on it's own merit.
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That's because if rumble installed any sort of moderation process, it would have to ban its far-right userbase, leaving it to show videos to two men and a dog.
 
cjnewson88 said:
In defence of Rumble..

I find it preferable to the censorship and bias algorithm of Youtube these days.. even my debunking videos on Youtube are shadow-banned now because they relate to '9/11 conspiracy theories'... It's hard to find anything 9/11 related on google/youtube these days because all the top results are 'reputable' sources like CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc etc etc.. frustrates the living hell out of me trying to find material.

Rumble, on the other-hand has no such bollocks.. so whilst it has become attritive to conspiratoid believers and far-right, I honestly prefer that to outright censorship and manipulation. Let the truth stand on it's own merit.
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Funny I can find anything 9/11 Related on YouTube might be your search engine.
 
Vivek Ramaswamy on the 9/11 Commission report

Vivek Ramaswamy, a Republican Presidential Candidate, said in an interview with BlazeTV that he does not believe the 9/11 Commission report. He is now running third in the polling only behind Trump and Desantis and his campaign shows no signs of slowing down.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9LzhAlkm8lk

Transcript: I don't believe the government has told us the truth. Again, I'm driven by evidence and data. What I've seen in the last several years is we have to be skeptical of what the government does tell us. I haven't seen evidence to the contrary, but do I believe everything the government told us about it? Absolutely not. Do I believe the 9/11 Commission? Absolutely not.
 
kookbreaker said:
And he promptly said this about what he said.

https://twitter.com/vivekgramaswamy/status/1686815204045111311?s=61&t=sE9SVLq0FjCjlM4Fk2Ajcw

Dylan Avery didn’t even backtrack this much.
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Considering that the lame bird may die soon or disappear behind paywalls or otherwise be blown some stupid peril at the childish hands of its petulant new master, allow me to quote the Tweet:

@VivekGRamaswamy said:
Do I believe our government has been completely forthright about 9/11? No. Al-Qaeda clearly planned and executed the attacks, but we have never fully addressed who knew what in the Saudi government about it. We *can* handle the TRUTH.

@BlazeTV - Aug 2 said:
Replying to @BlazeTV
.@alexstein99: "Was 9/11 an inside job or exactly how the government tells us?"

@VivekGRamaswamy: "I don't believe the government has told us the truth. We have to be skeptical. Do I believe everything the government told us about it? Absolutely not."
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Crazy Chainsaw said:
Funny I can find anything 9/11 Related on YouTube might be your search engine.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, it can be 'found', but only after digging through the first 5 pages of material 'related to 9/11 from reputable sources' that have nothing to do with the specifics of what you're searching looking for.

But if you're trying to say searching for specific 9/11 videos or images through google/youtube is as easy now as it was 10 years ago, you either haven't tried recently, or you're not being truthful.


Go ahead and try these;

Search youtube for "9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center" and see how many pages you have to dig through before a video by Ryan Owens to appears?

Here's one I did recently; I wanted a specific, original quality, recording of United 175 hitting the South Tower. The footage I was after was by a guy named Scott Myers. At the time, I didn't know his name. So all I had to go on was "united 175 impact". Go ahead and see how long it takes you to find his specific, original quality video, using just "united 175 impact" on youtube... literally hundreds of videos of '9/11 related' stuff most of it totally unrelated to what I was searching for.

It never used to be this hard.

There is a group of people, who I have recently begun assisting, who are so fed up with how difficult it has become to find specific video footage and photos on google/youtube they've dedicated hours finding and archiving videos/pictures to make it easier.
 
cjnewson88 said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, it can be 'found', but only after digging through the first 5 pages of material 'related to 9/11 from reputable sources' that have nothing to do with the specifics of what you're searching looking for.

But if you're trying to say searching for specific 9/11 videos or images through google/youtube is as easy now as it was 10 years ago, you either haven't tried recently, or you're not being truthful.


Go ahead and try these;

Search youtube for "9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center" and see how many pages you have to dig through before a video by Ryan Owens to appears?

Here's one I did recently; I wanted a specific, original quality, recording of United 175 hitting the South Tower. The footage I was after was by a guy named Scott Myers. At the time, I didn't know his name. So all I had to go on was "united 175 impact". Go ahead and see how long it takes you to find his specific, original quality video, using just "united 175 impact" on youtube... literally hundreds of videos of '9/11 related' stuff most of it totally unrelated to what I was searching for.

It never used to be this hard.

There is a group of people, who I have recently begun assisting, who are so fed up with how difficult it has become to find specific video footage and photos on google/youtube they've dedicated hours finding and archiving videos/pictures to make it easier.
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I always try searching one White eyes 9/11 Forum first last time I checked most of the links still worked over there.
 
cjnewson88 said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, it can be 'found', but only after digging through the first 5 pages of material 'related to 9/11 from reputable sources' that have nothing to do with the specifics of what you're searching looking for.

But if you're trying to say searching for specific 9/11 videos or images through google/youtube is as easy now as it was 10 years ago, you either haven't tried recently, or you're not being truthful.


Go ahead and try these;

Search youtube for "9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center" and see how many pages you have to dig through before a video by Ryan Owens to appears?

Here's one I did recently; I wanted a specific, original quality, recording of United 175 hitting the South Tower. The footage I was after was by a guy named Scott Myers. At the time, I didn't know his name. So all I had to go on was "united 175 impact". Go ahead and see how long it takes you to find his specific, original quality video, using just "united 175 impact" on youtube... literally hundreds of videos of '9/11 related' stuff most of it totally unrelated to what I was searching for.

It never used to be this hard.

There is a group of people, who I have recently begun assisting, who are so fed up with how difficult it has become to find specific video footage and photos on google/youtube they've dedicated hours finding and archiving videos/pictures to make it easier.
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I just found it in 2 minutes by Typing in Clearest view Impact flight 175, South Tower, into just Google.
 
cjnewson88 said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, it can be 'found', but only after digging through the first 5 pages of material 'related to 9/11 from reputable sources' that have nothing to do with the specifics of what you're searching looking for.

But if you're trying to say searching for specific 9/11 videos or images through google/youtube is as easy now as it was 10 years ago, you either haven't tried recently, or you're not being truthful.

Go ahead and try these;

Search youtube for "9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center" and see how many pages you have to dig through before a video by Ryan Owens to appears?
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I searched Google instead. Second result.



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Lot of good videos here. I scrolled down a bit and found a couple of familiar names. :D ;)

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Looks like there are 162 publicly available videos listed here.
 
Allen773 said:
I searched Google instead. Second result.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_2558864dc016dc639c.png[/qimg]

[qimg]https://i.postimg.cc/3J0NW4nF/debunking911edemolitionct.png[/qimg]



Lot of good videos here. I scrolled down a bit and found a couple of familiar names. :D ;)

[qimg]https://i.postimg.cc/j5NKtPsD/isf911.png[/qimg]



Looks like there are 162 publicly available videos listed here.
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It appeared as the 2nd result because you used quotation marks around it, meaning it searched for those exact words.

very few people searching google/youtube for 9/11 material are going to be using " " marks unless they already know specially what they are looking for.
 
kookbreaker said:
Vivek Ramaswamy openly wonders where all the armed sky marshals were on 9/11.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vivek-ramaswamy-truth-federal-agents-planes-twin-towers-2023-8

It seems he forgot we added armed sky marshals as a result of 9/11.

I expect he’ll be wondering where Obama was on 9/11 and why he didn’t stop it soon enough.
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Gord_in_Toronto said:
Assumes a fact not in evidence. Does he actually thin?
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Fonebone>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Air_Marshal_Service
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Air_Marshal_Service
[excerpt]Before the September 11, 2001 attacks, the Federal Air Marshal Service consisted of varying numbers of FAMs dependent on government funding. Although 50 positions were authorized by Congress, only 33 FAMs were active on September 11, 2001.[13] As a result of the 9/11 attacks, President George W. Bush ordered the rapid expansion of the Federal Air Marshal Service.[/excerpt]
 
kookbreaker said:
Vivek Ramaswamy openly wonders where all the armed sky marshals were on 9/11.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vivek-ramaswamy-truth-federal-agents-planes-twin-towers-2023-8

It seems he forgot we added armed sky marshals as a result of 9/11.

I expect he’ll be wondering where Obama was on 9/11 and why he didn’t stop it soon enough.
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To be fair, I would have thought we had armed air marshalls prior to 9/11. I'd probably have looked it up before saying it out loud though.
 
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