Sarah Palin: I told you so!

Noted moron Chris Matthews mocked Mitt Romney's "gaffe" of suggesting that Russia is the USA's number one geo-political foe.

 
Red Baron Farms said:
USS Liberty Incident To refresh your memory
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The Liberty Incident is a little more than a Blue on Green incident.

And given the apologies, acceptance of responsibility and the payment of compensation both for the ship and damages to the sailors and families the incident is objectively less outrageous than the Blue on Blue incidents that occurred in the Gulf and Afghanistan.
 
Clearly the only two possible positions are armed intervention everywhere, or else total isolationism!

I propose that we alternate between the two, flipping a coin to decide for every event. Russia invades Crimea...tails, we do nothing at all. Border incursion in South Sudan? Heads! We'll bomb them back to the....well, we'll bomb them.
 
TimCallahan said:
As to the Russian invasion. So far, it's limited to Crimea, which has a Russian population that isn't happy being part of Ukraine.
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It won't be limited to Crimea. The region cannot sustain itself (it depends on both water and electricity from the mainland), so Putin will need to seize more territory.

I suspect that at the end of the day, Russia will effectively seize all of Ukraine. I mean, why bother stopping with just part? It's not like the west will intervene militarily, and he's already going to be paying an economic/political price. Might as well get as much as he can, the costs probably won't be any higher. My guess is that he'll let it remain officially "independent", but will dictate terms much like what happened with Eastern Europe during the cold war. Ukraine will still be run by Ukrainians, but they'll be the Ukrainians of Putin's choosing, and they'll follow Moscow's lead on anything important.
 
NoahFence said:
I can't recall anyone from Israel using the money we gave them to murder Americans.
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And I am pretty sure the groups you mentioned had different funding streams for those attacks as well. But what change are you suggesting if we don't know who will attack us in the future?

Was supporting Egypt, and the Shaw of Iran wrong or right in the 70's?
 
ponderingturtle said:
Was supporting Egypt, and the Shaw of Iran wrong or right in the 70's?
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Who's the Shaw of Iran? Does he have any relation to Robert Shaw? Because if so, supporting him was probably the right thing to do. Robert Shaw made some great movies, I'm sure any relatives of his would probably make good movies too.
 
Then we have the example of the of worst judgement from a Republican in the last 50 years:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.

"I was able to get a sense of his soul.

"He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship," Mr Bush said.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1392791.stm
 
Remember when russia was a sane and wise country that made positive contributions to global politics?

Yea, neither do I.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
While I despise Putin, I am not a fan of Ukraine's neo nazi's either.
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This doesn't really say much as there are neo-Nazis both pro and anti Russia. At any rate, they aren't a sizable minority in either camp, so it's a little like saying you won't pick sides between the US and the UK because you're no fan of French speakers...
 
Ziggurat said:
It won't be limited to Crimea. The region cannot sustain itself (it depends on both water and electricity from the mainland), so Putin will need to seize more territory.

I suspect that at the end of the day, Russia will effectively seize all of Ukraine. I mean, why bother stopping with just part? It's not like the west will intervene militarily, and he's already going to be paying an economic/political price. Might as well get as much as he can, the costs probably won't be any higher. My guess is that he'll let it remain officially "independent", but will dictate terms much like what happened with Eastern Europe during the cold war. Ukraine will still be run by Ukrainians, but they'll be the Ukrainians of Putin's choosing, and they'll follow Moscow's lead on anything important.
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Probably correct, and short of shooting, not much that can be done about it.

Daredelvis
 
I'm no Sarah Palin, but I don't see Russia invading the Ukraine. I see a really strange stand-off on the subject of Crimea, though. Should we start referring to it as a separate entity? I think that's the play that's going to come. Putin and the Russians pushing for an independent Crimea, as that's more palatable than an adjunct to Russia with a pesky entire country between them.

I think it's less a question of the Russian population of the Crimea than it is a question of who those people are there to service. Russian businesses there are based on providing goods and services to the fat cats from Moscow. Too many back-room allies stand to lose a lot if Putin cedes the area back to Ukraine. As I mentioned before, it was gifted to a friendly SSR fifty years ago. I'm pretty sure he'll have no trouble convincing his fanboyz that since the recipient is no longer worthy of the gift, "we're taking it back". Sort of like China and the Panda "loans".
 
I think the options open to Europe and the United States to stop Russia from bringing democracy to Crimea, and then possibly Ukraine are limited. Especially considering where Germany gets its natural gas, and in light of the precedent set by the Bush Doctrine of preemptive war… rememberer what that was Sarah?

Daredelvis
 
dudalb said:
Careful, that the New Ukrainian Government is dominated by Neo Nazis is a main thrust of Putin's propaganda machine.
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That doesn't make it wrong, though. Svoboda is a far-right party, whose leaders have a history of anti-Semitism. "Neo-Nazis" might be an exaggeration, but only a slight one.
 
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